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Yes but they all have the same platform:

- Grrrr taxes go away!!
- Oooooo scary immigrants and brown people
- Drugs are bad m'kay
- Get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich
- AMERICA fukk YEAH!! *explosions in Middle Eastern country*

That's it. That's the GOP. And in the end they all always unite under that shyt. The fact that it was Trump is the shocker, but even if it wasn't him, it would be one of the other ones with the exact same platform.

Republicans vote R....always
people dont realize it but Trump's gotten MORE popular and they realize they dont have to like him to get what they want.

People will hold their noses and vote for him.

Democrats can NOT let someone as insular as Sanders lead us off the cliff.

Sanders should keep his movement in the senate and the house of reps where it belongs, long term missions of flipping seats. Sanders isn't equipped to lead the national federal government
 

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The people who do the Chapo Trap House podcast. They also have a big sub on reddit. Mostly white leftists. They call themselves the dirt bag left. Now one of their hosts is tweeting about sitting out if Bernie isn’t the nominee.

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i'm a fan of the podcast generally...but when it comes to bernie they turn into complete weirdos

same with michael brooks.

just straight up tankies.

they treat Sanders like an unalienable god figure. Its damn near Trump like.

Most of us dont live in D+25 districts where we have democrats who can't moonlight as communists.

Thats the problem with New York and West Coast democrats. They are NOT what gets elected in the mid-west and South.
 

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(July 16, 2020 from Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee, WI at the brokered DNC convention)

DNC chair Perez, "With Michael Bloomberg at the top of the ticket we have an actual billionaire to take on Drumpf and a fierce, young progressive named Stacey Abrams as your VP. Let's show up to the ballot box with our values." :troll:


So?

Is it against DNC rules?
 

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Their voters are different though. Republicans will tear each other up but still show up on election day.

Dem voters will actually stay home over relatively minor disagreements and pat themselves on the back for it..
Cite evidence of sitting home over minor disagreements. There was nothing minor about 2016. 2008 is what we call minor.
 

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I’m tired of any section of the democratic party holding the general election hostage if their candidate doesn’t win. It’s idiotic but also harmful. You would think that the “both sides” argument is dead based on the current president but people who must not be negatively affected by Trump are just like “I will vote next time when there is a better Dem candidate in the general”. This ignores all the very harmful actions by the current administration. It’s hard to have intelligent discourse about the political process when some do not value the weight of choices (both to vote third party or not vote at all)
 

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and?

he won two terms and changed lives

some of yall dont care about WINNING

This is NOT a left wing country, at least by how votes are counted nationally. You have to WIN BY THE RULES IF YOU CANT CHANGE THE RULES!
and AGAIN, you're criticizing bernie for what warren IS ALSO RUNNING ON :laff:

you cant criticize bernie for this shyt, but be a warren supporter. and for the record, i agree with what you're saying here :bryan:
 

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I’m tired of any section of the democratic party holding the general election hostage if their candidate doesn’t win. It’s idiotic but also harmful. You would think that the “both sides” argument is dead based on the current president but people who must not be negatively affected by Trump are just like “I will vote next time when there is a better Dem candidate in the general”. This ignores all the very harmful actions by the current administration. It’s hard to have intelligent discourse about the political process when some do not value the weight of choices (both to vote third party or not vote at all)
No side of the party has held the party hostage. Every election is about turnout. The party loses when it fails to turn out its very large tent by alienating people. The closest attempts at holding the party hostage is a guy like Manchin saying that he would not vote Sanders or Warren. The left is responding in kind to make it clear that they won’t be run over. It’s beefing that will resolve itself before the general election absent fukkery. The very real possibility of not voting is basically the only bargaining chip those who aren’t in power have. Whereas Bloomberg has people working for his campaign that are on the DNC Rules Committee.
 

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and?

he won two terms and changed lives

some of yall dont care about WINNING

This is NOT a left wing country, at least by how votes are counted nationally. You have to WIN BY THE RULES IF YOU CANT CHANGE THE RULES!


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- As Americans continued to lean more Democratic than Republican in their party preferences in 2019, the ideological balance of the country remained center-right, with 37% of Americans, on average, identifying as conservative during the year, 35% as moderate and 24% as liberal.

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The 2019 findings are based on combined data from 21 Gallup telephone surveys conducted throughout the year, encompassing over 29,000 interviews with U.S. adults.

The percentage identifying as conservative in 2019 was up two points from the 35% measured in 2018, while the percentage liberal was down two points from 26%. While these changes are statistically significant, some two-point changes in the past were short-lived, so it will be important to see whether these trends continue in 2020.

Regardless, conservatives and moderates remain closely matched in U.S. ideological preferences, as they have been since 2015. This follows several years -- from 2009 to 2014 -- when conservatives consistently outnumbered moderates. Before that, from 1999 to 2008, the two groups were about even, whereas from 1992 to 1998, moderates generally had the slight edge.

Meanwhile, liberal identification has gradually expanded over the past two decades, rising from 16% in 1996 to 19% by the late 1990s, 20% during George W. Bush's presidency, an average 23% during Barack Obama's presidency and 25% since Donald Trump took office.

The U.S. Remained Center-Right, Ideologically, in 2019
 

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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- As Americans continued to lean more Democratic than Republican in their party preferences in 2019, the ideological balance of the country remained center-right, with 37% of Americans, on average, identifying as conservative during the year, 35% as moderate and 24% as liberal.

8gnxudmeq0sf7jkxyhgxaw.png


The 2019 findings are based on combined data from 21 Gallup telephone surveys conducted throughout the year, encompassing over 29,000 interviews with U.S. adults.

The percentage identifying as conservative in 2019 was up two points from the 35% measured in 2018, while the percentage liberal was down two points from 26%. While these changes are statistically significant, some two-point changes in the past were short-lived, so it will be important to see whether these trends continue in 2020.

Regardless, conservatives and moderates remain closely matched in U.S. ideological preferences, as they have been since 2015. This follows several years -- from 2009 to 2014 -- when conservatives consistently outnumbered moderates. Before that, from 1999 to 2008, the two groups were about even, whereas from 1992 to 1998, moderates generally had the slight edge.

Meanwhile, liberal identification has gradually expanded over the past two decades, rising from 16% in 1996 to 19% by the late 1990s, 20% during George W. Bush's presidency, an average 23% during Barack Obama's presidency and 25% since Donald Trump took office.

The U.S. Remained Center-Right, Ideologically, in 2019


But... moderates approval rating of Trump is only 42%

And there are more people registered Democrats than Republican so...:yeshrug:
 

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I forgot where I read it but team Biden was telling reporters that they could survive a Pete win Iowa back in November

but I don’t think they thought Pete would steal so much of his 65 and older support. It might be hurting him in NH as well.
Joe's money situation isn't good too
 
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