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Bruh, with Biden I guess I’m hopeful, but the more I think about it, I get pissed off at him for not providing specific policy plans for black people when he acknowledges that black people are his base. Like these are the people you expect to save you and you have done nothing but shown them old pictures of you and Obama and said “believe me, I am for black people, ask Barrack.”

shyt, take Biden out. It’s Liz, Steyer, then Bernie. Just thinking about it now, I definitely see Biden selling out black people for “working class Americans” and asking black people to just be patient like the Democratic Party has done since forever.

You, like most black folk's hopes are with Biden because that's what we've been conditioned to accept.

I saw some LBGT people say they like Bernie and supported him until he took an endorsement from a transphobe despite the fact that he has been on the right side of history in regards to their issues before it was popular.

If you're going off of 'hope' here in regards to which one of of these candidates actually have the compassion necessary to address any black issues brought to them, say one like the water crisis in Flint, you might want to look at little less at their rhetoric and more so at the actions they have taken in regards to black people or any other civil rights issue for that matter.

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The Boston Globe wrote up this article on my town.

Wondering how N.H. will vote? Look to the little town of Dover - The Boston Globe





I had no clue we were that predictive.

I’ll keep y’all posted on what I see at my Ward. It’s pretty cool that I can meet all these people so up close.

In 2007, I stood like 6 feet from Obama at a local school while he talked to 50 of us lmao. Hilary cried those fake tears in a bakery I’m always at... McCain was hanging out at my neighbors house once...
"A new Globe/WBZ-TV/Suffolk University survey of Dover residents over the weekend suggests Senator Bernie Sanders is likely to win here, with around 25 percent of the vote."



 

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Not being argumentative, but you still not addressing the issues. We don’t know what the committee will recommend. You previously stated that Bernie said he doesn’t know the answer. That is why the committee will he formed. What if the committee thinks that $20,000 is the answer? The problem is this. Because Bernie is already on record stating he doesn’t support monetary payments as reparations, the process will not be trusted. Again you can’t say you don’t support monetary payments, and state you fully support HR40. By doing that you corrupt the process.

You're misrepresenting his response and it's not right because the video has been posted.

$20K does not resolve the issue, in his view.

Do you think Corey Booker would be happy with $20K as the solution the committee came to?
 

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Assuming you're right about what he said...

He hasn't lied.

Why wouldn't he just use his efforts to promote other plans that disproportionately positively impact Black Americans like he's doing?



What are the issues that you would like recognized? Maybe that's what I'm missing.

Bernie Sanders always tells the people he's talking to what's in it for them.

It just so happens they've been campaigning in White states.

Here is the NAACP forum for himself and Warren




Fam, I get your support of Bernie, but even in the clips you posted, Bernie talks in generalities about how his plans will help all people, including black people. Liz speaks about specifics, such as her housing plan aimed at formerly redlined areas to increase black 1st time home ownership. Again, Bernie is cool but if you are looking for tangible plans for black people, Liz is where it’s at.
 

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Assuming you're right about what he said...

He hasn't lied.

Why wouldn't he just use his efforts to promote other plans that disproportionately positively impact Black Americans like he's doing?

Because white liberals tried that and that how's we got where we are now. It's not gonna be much different with white progressives.

You wanna give white, working class people an economic leg up, then do the same for black people. And before you say "he is", remember that by almost every economic and financial metric black people are woefully behind white people. So the economic impact of those programs will be immediate for white people on average. Black people will have to wait about a generation (20 years) before seeing any results. Assuming they all don't get dismantled like Obamacare did.
 

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You're misrepresenting his response and it's not right because the video has been posted.

$20K does not resolve the issue, in his view.

Do you think Corey Booker would be happy with $20K as the solution the committee came to?
What do Cory Booker have to do with anything? I didn’t support Cory Booker campaign. Nobody stated that just a cash payment will solve all of the systematic problems of racism Black people face. However, it could be part of the solution. Again, I will ask you the question. What if the committee recommend monetary payments as part of the solution?
 

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And I’m not sure how recognizing issues specific to the black community and speaking to how your generic policy also tackles those as opposed to creating a generic policy and just sticking to it helps everyone is pandering. People always want to know what’s in it for me and that you understand them. Pandering is making promises or fake Black only proposals that will never be executed

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Voting Rights and Enfranchisement
In the last decade, more than 30 states have considered voter suppression laws whose clear intent is to disenfranchise people of color. How pathetic and how cowardly is that. Together we will end voter suppression in this country and move to automatic voter registration. We are going to make voting easier, not harder. To protect our democracy, we must:

  • Restore the Voting Rights Act.
  • Re-enfranchise the right to vote to the 1 in 13 African-Americans who have had their vote taken away by a felony conviction, paid their debt to society, and deserve to have their rights restored.
  • Secure automatic voter registration for every American over 18.
  • End voter suppression and gerrymandering.
  • Abolish burdensome voter ID laws.
  • Make Election Day a national holiday.
Criminal Justice
Over the last number of years, we have seen a terrible level of police violence against unarmed people in the minority community: Laquan McDonald, Sandra Bland, Michael Brown, Rekia Boyd, Eric Garner, Walter Scott, Freddie Gray, Jessica Hernandez, Tamir Rice, Jonathan Ferrell, Oscar Grant, Antonio Zambrano-Montes and others. People of color, killed by the police, who should be alive today. We know that African-Americans are twice as likely to be arrested, and almost four times as likely to experience physical force in an encounter with the police.

Today, black men are sentenced to 19% more jail time for committing the exact same crime as white men, and African Americans are jailed at more than five times the rate of whites.

All of this and more is why we are finally going to bring about real criminal justice reform in this country. We are going to end the international embarrassment of having more people in jail than any other country on earth. Instead of spending $80 billion a year on jails and incarceration, we are going to invest in jobs and education for our young people. No more private prisons and detention centers. No more profiteering from locking people up. No more "war on drugs.


Environmental Justice
Today, Flint, Michigan, is still without new pipes for clean water, and there are 3,000 other Flint, Michigans, across the country—neighborhoods with lead rates that were double those of Flint during the height of its crisis. Together, we must:

  • Enact a Green New Deal not just to save the planet, but to protect our most vulnerable communities. We must end the scourge of environmental racism, and at the same time create green jobs to support and rebuild the local economies of affected communities.
  • Protect low-income and minority communities, who are hit first and worst by the causes and impacts of climate change, while also protecting existing energy-sector workers as they transition into clean energy and other jobs.
  • Address the inadequate environmental cleanup efforts of Superfund hazardous waste sites in communities of color.
  • Stop the exposure of people of color to harmful chemicals, pesticides and other toxins in homes, schools, neighborhoods, and workplaces and challenge faulty assumptions in calculating, assessing, and managing risks, discriminatory zoning and land-use practices and exclusionary policies.
  • Enact a Green New Deal to mitigate climate change and focus on building resilience in low-income and minority communities.
Address Healthcare Disparities
Today, the infant mortality rate in black communities is more than double the rate for white communities, and the death rates from cancer and almost every other disease is far higher for blacks. Black women are three and a half times more likely to die from pregnancy than white women. We must:

  • End the racial disparities in our health care system—31% of African Americans and 32% of Hispanics struggle paying medical bills compared to 24% of white Americans. We must guarantee health care to all people of color as a right, not a privilege, through a Medicare-for-all, single-payer program and end this inequity.
Legalizing Marijuana
Ensure that revenue from legal marijuana is reinvested in communities hit hardest by the War on Drugs, especially African-American and other communities of color.

With new tax resources from legal marijuana sales, we will:




    • Create a $20 billion grant program within the Minority Business Development Agency to provide grants to entrepreneurs of color who continue to face discrimination in access to capital.
    • With this revenue we will also create a $10 billion grant program to focus on businesses that are at least 51% owned or controlled by those in disproportionately impacted areas or individuals who have been arrested for or convicted of marijuana offenses.
    • Provide formerly incarcerated individuals with training and resources needed to start their own businesses and worker owned businesses, and guarantee jobs and free job training at trade schools and apprenticeship programs related to marijuana businesses.
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Fam, I get your support of Bernie, but even in the clips you posted, Bernie talks in generalities about how his plans will help all people, including black people. Liz speaks about specifics, such as her housing plan aimed at formerly redlined areas to increase black 1st time home ownership. Again, Bernie is cool but if you are looking for tangible plans for black people, Liz is where it’s at.

What is Liz going to do for Blacks with regard to Housing that she isn't going to do for other Americans? Or what's Biden going to do? or Steyer, or Pete, or Bernie?

She surely didn't mention it in the NAACP forum.

"build affordable homes for working-class Americans" is what she said.

Sounds like Bernie's plan, including the redlining bit.

Housing for All
 

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Because white liberals tried that and that how's we got where we are now. It's not gonna be much different with white progressives.

You wanna give white, working class people an economic leg up, then do the same for black people. And before you say "he is", remember that by almost every economic and financial metric black people are woefully behind white people. So the economic impact of those programs will be immediate for white people on average. Black people will have to wait about a generation (20 years) before seeing any results. Assuming they all don't get dismantled like Obamacare did.
What is the economic leg up what Warren or Sanders are proposing for White people? They both focus on low an middle income ppl which are disproportionately Black and Latino
 

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What do Cory Booker have to do with anything? I didn’t support Cory Booker campaign. Nobody stated that just a cash payment will solve all of the systematic problems of racism Black people face. However, it could be part of the solution. Again, I will ask you the question. What if the committee recommend monetary payments as part of the solution?

Then if it's good and viable it'll work. :yeshrug:


edit: Cory is the one that introduced the Senate bill regarding researching the issue that Warren and Sanders are co-sponsoring. That's what he has to do with it, btw.
 
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