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That centrist coward wasn't no socialist:usure:
no shyt, but he was painted as one by the right wing media.

all that mattered was that obama got people out to vote, bernie's people are far less likely to turn out to vote because he's inspiring younger people to vote, who generally don't turnout. but they will if they got their candidate out there.

i honestly don't seeing old democrats who vote in every other election suddenly switching to trump, but i can be wrong. i'd rather take that shot than be scared though.

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I don’t have evidence to prove this, but I suspect the “Bernie is a sexist” thing hurt her significantly.

I think people across the political spectrum see that as a bytch move... just on a personal level.
Nobody liked it and it INFURIATED Bernie voters, even those of us who were somewhat okay/possibly considering her. Its just fukking lame because like....nobody really thinks Bernie is gonna say some shyt like that in a "woman just cant win, Liz" sort of way. She's just got a record of being kinda dishonest. And dishonest towards Bernie? How dare you.
 

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New Hampshire Dems didn’t love Hilary and I didn’t vote for her in either primary or the GE.

The rest of your observation is pretty dead on though. My representatives and Senators have more bearing on policy than the President does, so I look at the president as more of a figurehead than a policy wonk......and I’m afraid to tell you LOTS of people with my age, sex and color are the same way.

The reason why?? I consider myself a realist: I work and live and interact with conservative white people all day. I work for a Utah based company filled with 60% Mormons. I have conversations with them out of the office to get inside their head and it’s apparent that a heavily socialist candidate with sweeping changes to the way America runs and governs and pays for things will simply not get what he/she wants done.
You know what they say: when the going gets tough, quit.
 
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