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Bernie's going to need a VP that garners the respect of both progressives and moderates, preferably young, Midwestern. Someone like Tammy Duckworth would be a solid choice. She's a disabled vet so she would definitely garner respect from veterans and conservatives.:ehh:
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ill acknowledge the problems with tulsi, but dudes are in here talking about they'd rather see bernie run with an AOC than a moderate. i think that's fukking insane :yeshrug:

it's also NOT what obama did, when he won. two elections
It's what happened with Trump when he went full on evangelical with Pence. :mjlol:
 

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Bernie's going to need a VP that garners the respect of both progressives and moderates, preferably young, Midwestern. Someone like Tammy Duckworth would be a solid choice. She's a disabled vet so she would definitely garner respect from veterans and conservatives.:ehh:

He would win Wisconsin for sure.
 

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Uh, you're pretty much saying what I said - we don't fall in love with these people/process, we just do what we have to do. apathy is why we will just back the person who seems like they'll win.
No, I’m not saying the same thing. Though I don’t disagree with your assertion. I’m saying what you’re saying is true for a certain segment of the black electorate- typically black women in their 40s and up. The more common take is to not be involved whatsoever and to debate voting at all. If we actually had your stance then Trump wouldn’t be president because black people in the Midwest would not have gone back to Kerry and even Gore levels in certain parts. People showed up because of the feeling of Obama but the general stance is this is bullshyt and maybe I’ll vote but maybe I won’t and who cares. To put numbers on it, white people vote in presidential elections at a 65 to 66 percent clip and that’s remained stable for decades. Black tend to vote somewhere around 55 to 59 percent with the Obama surge pushing it to its highest ever in 2012 to 66 percent where black people outvoted white people for the first time. With Obama gone, it went back to 59 percent. That’s has substantial ramifications. The last election was basically won and lost in and Milwaukee, Wayne County and in and around Pittsburgh and Philly.
 

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ill acknowledge the problems with tulsi, but dudes are in here talking about they'd rather see bernie run with an AOC than a moderate. i think that's fukking insane :yeshrug:

it's also NOT what obama did, when he won. two elections

And subsequently lost the movement that got him there.
 

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Bernie's going to need a VP that garners the respect of both progressives and moderates, preferably young, Midwestern. Someone like Tammy Duckworth would be a solid choice. She's a disabled vet so she would definitely garner respect from veterans and conservatives.:ehh:
:ehh: I can dig that
 

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Honestly they make it hard having a legit conversation in here on some sports division shyt. Makes not even want to vote for him :hhh:

Vote for Trump then you dog faced pony soldier, and eat poop while your'e at it.

:russ:

It's one thing to not fukk with Bernie or have a preferred candidate. It's another for these types who say they like him and his vision, or would otherwise vote for him if it weren't for mean Bernie Bro's, a lot of who are only as aggressive as they are because they feel are fighting for much more than political capitol.

nikkas tellin me to cool out but they ain't feeling me :wow:
 

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ill acknowledge the problems with tulsi, but dudes are in here talking about they'd rather see bernie run with an AOC than a moderate. i think that's fukking insane :yeshrug:

it's also NOT what obama did, when he won. two elections


AOC isn't old enough to be VP
 
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