dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
because the proletariat said so you oligarch!
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Expecting the middle class to carry the burden of the cost of healthcare is ridiculous. I thought all this shyt could easily be paid for
. Expecting citizens yearly health care cost to go up 3-10xs is ridiculous.Me and @dora_da_destroyer aint middle middle class. That said, this also includes vision and dental insurance so I don’t know if just showing the cost of healthcare plans is fair. But moreover, Bernie hasn’t committed to a funding mechanism except saying that there will have to be a tax hike on families somehow. I honestly think that he and his team are still figuring it out just like Obama and Obamacare during the primary. Warren made the strategic error of trying to give a perfect answer, which is why she got killed for it. Bernie let her take that bullet. Notice how he always dodges by stating how much everything else costs. He’s a craftier politician than you’re all giving him credit for.Expecting the middle class to carry the burden of the cost of healthcare is ridiculous. I thought all this shyt could easily be paid for
If you're making under 100k especially 50k Sander's plan is way cheaper and will probably save alot of lives. If you're making more I can see why people especially voters would be hesitant. Y'all do need to remember that the graph that was posted is cost over the year.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
I don’t think he’s dodging. I think he’s buying time while a plan is worked up. He said that there will be a tax on families and admits to that. The question is how you fund the entire thing. If you actually read about the bill, there are like 7 different funding mechanisms offered. Warren tried to do it without raising taxes and that’s not possible. She tried to appeal to everyone. Bernie simply knows that funding is contingent on passing multiple bills (wealth tax, repealing certain laws, etc.). That doesn’t make for a great headline.
I'd rather have healthcare than to depend on my employer based for insurance 
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So basically bernie is just selling ideas and not legislation like a true politician, warren died so he could prosper in ideas 
Rahter have healthcare than to depend on my employer based for insurance
I feel you on that a lot of employers have shyt coverage
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
he could easily come up with a 3-5 step plan he recites - "wealth tax, increase to personal tax, cut budget item x".. i'm not looking for headlines, i'm looking for answers, and that doesn't mean a 50 page doc like warren did either. it means stop talking about "well when you think of premiums/co pays/etc, it's better" as that doesn't give any insight to his intended funding mechanism(s), i don't buy he has no clue.
My wife deductible is 5500 dollars. Had her drop that shyt quick for my plan which is better but we shouldn't have to do this shyt. Mind you her employer owns half of Columbus so cost isn't an issue but they pass the cost on to the employees .
I feel you on that a lot of employers have shyt coverage
OfTheCross
Veteran
You're asking too many questions at this point. Whatever the solution is has to be worked out with Congress. No point in him negotiating with himself on this. Just know that he has shown a desire to keep taxes low for middle class people.