2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[dtownreppin214]

I’ll be the ringleader as long as I get to watch you nikkas vote for Bernard in November

Bernie's top surrogate just conceded that (Warren's) incremental approach to fixing healthcare might be the only path forward and she's ok with that. Thoughts?

 

[Cheddar Biscuits]

Do yall believe M4A can pass in this current Congress?

Nope. And that's why this is neither the beginning nor the end of the fight for it. When Obama was elected in '08 there was virtually no support for it, even among Democrats. Democrats couldn't even get enough votes to push through the ACA, a right-wing healthcare plan, when they had a supermajority without kneecapping it to make centrists happy. By 2012, we had a M4A bill with about 20 cosponsors. By 2014, we passed Medicaid expansion in 20 states, which turned into 38 two years later. Today it's the highest polling and most popular policy proposal in the country and has over 100 cosponsors. AOC, Rashida, and Ilhan are the furthest left members of congress we've had in our lifetime, and now the most popular politician in the country is running on an M4A platform and is leading the Dem primary.

One victory doesn't solve every problem, but every victory solves one problem. Look at the Democrats today and compare them to what they were 15 years ago, when they were all Bloombergs and the best the party could do was Al Gore and John Kerry. We're where we are now because we didn't give up back then and haven't stopped giving up today.

 

[King Kreole]

Nope. And that's why this is neither the beginning nor the end of the fight for it. When Obama was elected in '08 there was virtually no support for it, even among Democrats. Democrats couldn't even get enough votes to push through the ACA, a right-wing healthcare plan, when they had a supermajority without kneecapping it to make centrists happy. By 2012, we had a M4A bill with about 20 cosponsors. By 2014, we passed Medicaid expansion in 20 states, which turned into 38 two years later. Today it's the highest polling and most popular policy proposal in the country and has over 100 cosponsors. AOC, Rashida, and Ilhan are the furthest left members of congress we've had in our lifetime, and now the most popular politician in the country is running on an M4A platform and is leading the Dem primary.

One victory doesn't solve every problem, but every victory solves one problem. Look at the Democrats today and compare them to what they were 15 years ago, when they were all Bloombergs and the best the party could do was Al Gore and John Kerry. We're where we are now because we didn't give up back then and haven't stopped giving up today.

Look at this establishment shill Warren stan juelzing to cover his clear betrayal of the M4A movement, it's obvious you no longer support M4A

 

[Json]

JoeJoe's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond (Joe) is Unbreakable.

The best way to get at Bloomberg is going after him for his redlining remarks and his misogyny, which ABC News had reported on back in December. Criminal Justice is too "messy" even if his explanations are somehow worse than Biden's (which is quite the feat). His redlining remarks sounded like something Hannity, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly have all probably said.
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Are you for real? Women and minorities?

We just had an argument about letting the “Joe Roganites” be in cause we need them cause Bernie can get them.

 

[Cheddar Biscuits]

Look at this establishment shill Warren stan juelzing to cover his clear betrayal of the M4A movement, it's obvious you no longer support M4A

You seem pretty upset about the fact that you keep getting called out for voting for candidates who are against M4A. You can stop that by, instead, voting for candidates who support M4A.

 

[King Kreole]

You seem pretty upset about the fact that you keep getting called out for voting for candidates who are against M4A. You can stop that by, instead, voting for candidates who support M4A.

Unfortunately there are no longer any candidates who support M4A

What am I to do??

 

[dtownreppin214]

Isn't that Tammy Baldwin, not Duckworth from Wisconsin? Either Tammy would be a great choice tbh

Tammy would be a good choice for any of the men running but...

Her seat would sit empty until an election could occur 62-77 days after order of a special election.

Let me discuss all the current Senators I do not want to be VP or cabinet members due to shytty vacancy laws:

Sinema (AZ R governor appointment)
Shaheen or Hassan (NH R governor appointment)
Sherrod Brown (OH R governor appointment)
Manchin (WV R governor appointment)
Warren or Markey (special election - interim appointed by MA R governor)
Baldwin (special election in a swing state - stays vacant in the interim)
Bernie or Leahy (special election - interim appointed by VT R governor)
Wyden or Merkley (special election - stays vacant in the interim)

Like I think the Democrats win the presidency but the Senate is very precarious. Interim Republicans or vacancies could screw up our first 100 days, easily.

 

[Cheddar Biscuits]

Unfortunately there are no longer any candidates who support M4A

What am I to do??

I guess you can keep embarrassing yourself and sending even more Warren holdouts over to the Sanders camp like you've been doing all week.

 

[Pressure]

The Democrat's coalition ranges from Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema to Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey. Mike Nutter, the former mayor of Philadelphia, was just as big of a proponent of Stop and Frisk as Bloomberg was and he held office as a Democrat in the mid-2000s. Even someone like Manchin has never run for or held office as a Republican and we know how much he upsets people who don't understand electoral politics. Bloomberg would have always been ideologically at home as a Democrat, especially in the early 2000s, but he chose to be a Republican and then an Independent instead. I don't think the Overton window discussion applies to Bloomberg since he rejected more ideologically similar iterations of the Democratic Party as a politician up until his presidential bid.

The discussion seems to be that we can't win with moderates and therefore we must pivot towards a fully progressive candidate.

Bloomberg jumped back to be a dem in 2018 and spent a lot of money on moderates and a lot of moderates picked up seats.

Ultimately the party is still big tent as always and there needs to be a discussion on the type of compromise that must happen to move the party forward.

If Pete, Bloomberg, Klobuchar and Biden didn't make up so much in the polls we wouldn't have AOC talking about a compromise on M4A.

Even the green new deal has taken a dip.

It's still early though.

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

Wondering out loud if Bernie sent out a memo. We can't win in the general with this shyt. Now his surrogates going around tempering expectations

 

[Pressure]

My prediction, we'll be spending most of 2020 talking about rooting out corruption and expanding healthcare while workers towards a more robust long term option.

 

[Cheddar Biscuits]

Wondering out loud if Bernie sent out a memo. We can't win in the general with this shyt. Now his surrogates going around tempering expectations

Did you win without it?

 

[Uno Venova]

Whoa..have we already conceded Bernie win the primary

 

[SunZoo]

Jesus

She looked disappointed af to me, almost sad.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

By that metric, there isn’t a single leftist Democratic senator in the top 5 and probably top 10. None of the senators who ran for president ranked in the top 10 but Amy. We’ll have to agree to disagree.

i don't know who's top 10 or not, but liz outpaces bernie significantly too. and political tilt doesn't matter re: sponsoring/co sponsoring bills nor making sure to vote, even if it's to abstain. legislation enacted is the only one i can agree may be impacted by political tilt