2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Uno Venova]

I feel bad for people who wasted their money on warren campaign

All thats left of her and her fans existence is attacking bernie. I thought her donors would be disappointed in Warren abandoning her presidential ambitions to focus on sabatoge but it looks like thats all yall wanted to.

Oh well. Thank god voters see through that reptile

For the people supporting candidates who are actually trying to win an election

That’s probably why they’re so salty in here

Nothing is ever posted about her policy additions or videos

No ads about her or interviews are ever posted

And definitely nothing is posted about her demographics or polling

All their energy is focused on the front runner and his fans

 

[Kenny West]

This is how we win

#peoplepower

 

[duncanthetall]

Bernie's top surrogate just conceded that (Warren's) incremental approach to fixing healthcare might be the only path forward and she's ok with that. Thoughts?

She literally said it was a worse case scenario.

Warren’s done. Get over it. Wonder what loser you goofies will pick next

 

[R. Money]

If you think this image is beating Trump, your brain is not in Utah.

 

[Json]

She literally said it was a worse case scenario.

Warren’s done. Get over it. Wonder what loser you goofies will pick next

i guess if Warren supporters go to Bernie he will start losing to Bloomberg

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Somebody needs to invite Stormy Daniels to one of the presidential debates

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I was wrong. This is another reason why security through obscurity is bad. Tom Perez is incompetent, and if this is the kind of shyt that happens under his watch, he needs to step down.

Yahoo is now a part of Verizon Media

WASHINGTON — While the Democratic National Committee over the past 10 days has tried to distance itself from the troubled app that threw the results of the Iowa caucuses into disarray, a copy of the contract and internal correspondence provided to Yahoo News demonstrates that national party officials had extensive oversight over the development of the technology.

The Democrats’ Iowa caucuses took place on Feb. 3, but the outcome is still in question following a series of issues related to the failure of an app that was supposed to be used to submit results. In the days since the debacle, DNC Chair Tom Perez has criticized the Iowa Democratic Party, which ran the caucuses, and the developer of the app, Shadow Inc.

An unaffiliated Democratic operative in Iowa provided Yahoo News with a copy of the contract between Shadow and the Iowa Democratic Party. The contract, which was signed on Oct. 14, 2019, and refers to Shadow as the “Consultant,” specified that the company had to work with the DNC and provide the national party with access to its software for testing.

“Consultant agrees to work with the DNC Services Corporation / Democratic National Committee (‘DNC’) on an on-going basis as Consultant develops the software,” the contract reads.

The contract also specifies that Shadow agrees to “provide DNC continual access to review the Consultant’s system configurations, security and system logs, system designs, data flow designs, security controls (preventative and detective), and operational plans for how the Consultant will use and run the Software for informational dissemination, pre-registration, tabulation, and reporting throughout the caucus process.”

The Iowa Caucuses App Had Another Problem: It Could Have Been Hacked — ProPublica

A glitch in the smartphone app used to count and report votes from individual precincts continues to delay results from Monday’s Iowa caucuses. But a closer look shows that the app had a potentially graver problem that apparently did not come into play: its vulnerability to hacking.

The IowaReporterApp was so insecure that vote totals, passwords and other sensitive information could have been intercepted or even changed, according to officials at Massachusetts-based Veracode, a security firm that reviewed the software at ProPublica’s request. Because of a lack of safeguards, transmissions to and from the phone were left largely unprotected.

Chris Wysopal, Veracode’s chief technology officer, said the problems were elementary. He called it a “poor decision” to release the software without first fixing them. “It is important for all mobile apps that deal with sensitive data to have adequate security testing, and have any vulnerabilities fixed before being released for use,” he said.

The weaknesses reinforce concerns about political parties managing elections, especially in an era of heightened sensitivity to digital security issues — and about the Iowa Democratic Party’s actions in particular. Party officials, who touted the new technology as a fast way to tally votes, may have given short shrift to assuring not only the app’s effectiveness but also its security, experts said.

 

[R. Money]

 

[intra vires]

The discussion seems to be that we can't win with moderates and therefore we must pivot towards a fully progressive candidate.

Well, that's factually inaccurate and the fact that Buttibot has a slight delegate lead despite being in a more congested lane (Biden and Klobuchar) is evidence of this. Not that I'm surprised people here would draw the wrong conclusions from the state of the race.

Bloomberg jumped back to be a dem in 2018 and spent a lot of money on moderates and a lot of moderates picked up seats.

Yes, and he also gave money to Republicans as he did with Pat Toomey 2016. I'm not giving him a pass for that especially when it's being argued that he's an actual Democrat over members in better standing.

Ultimately the party is still big tent as always and there needs to be a discussion on the type of compromise that must happen to move the party forward.

I don't disagree, the genesis of our back and forth was about your characterization of Bloomberg and Sanders.

Sanders has a history of compromising and he would never have the votes to play hardball. He voted for the ACA so I doubt he'd hold out too long on signing public option legislation when he knows he has lacks leverage. One of his complaints about the USMCA was that it lacked climate regulations/language. Okay, a Dem Senate would include that and make a few more concessions so he'd sign a trade deal that he could get and his voting record supports this. Would he waste some of his political capital on wishcasting? Probably, but he's not going to veto the vast majority of bills Pelosi and Schumer send to his desk.

If Pete, Bloomberg, Klobuchar and Biden didn't make up so much in the polls we wouldn't have AOC talking about a compromise on M4A.

Even the green new deal has taken a dip.

It's still early though.

Well, neither of those things are passing in the Senate or the House so they'd always have to move towards compromise (and they will compromise even further). If Sanders and his cult want him to be the standard-bearer and unite the party he's going to have to make a number of compromises and the party is going to have to make compromises as well.

My prediction, we'll be spending most of 2020 talking about rooting out corruption and expanding healthcare while work[ing] towards a more robust long term option.

Well, people who have serious conversations will...

 

[Armchair Militant]

Finding a VP for Bernie is tough AF

I’ve been looking at some of the people in the House of Representatives. Karen Bass might be a good one. She’s a black woman on the Medicare for All Caucus. I like the way she speaks.

 

[duncanthetall]

 

[duncanthetall]

That’s probably why they’re so salty in here

Nothing is ever posted about her policy additions or videos

No ads about her or interviews are ever posted

And definitely nothing is posted about her demographics or polling

All their energy is focused on the front runner and his fans

Same thing on twitter. They all spend so much time talking about how much more coverage Bernie and others get over her. Then you check their profile and they don’t even talk about Warren. They just bytch about everyone else. Like...i soend my time commenting and sharing and interacting on there as much positive Bernie stuff as I can. They just whine whine whine about everyone else and high five each other over shytty twitter “got em” moments.

They’re as bad as the KHive on twitter. But replace the sassiness with sadness

 

[Mike809]

If you think this image is beating Trump, your brain is not in Utah.

All trump would have to do is spread this image to the south , and its game over.

 

[Uno Venova]

Same thing on twitter. They all spend so much time talking about how much more coverage Bernie and others get over her. Then you check their profile and they don’t even talk about Warren. They just bytch about everyone else. Like...i soend my time commenting and sharing and interacting on there as much positive Bernie stuff as I can. They just whine whine whine about everyone else and high five each other over shytty twitter “got em” moments.

They’re as bad as the KHive on twitter. But replace the sassiness with sadness

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

today's reality check (based on groupchat convo):

• coli (twitter) has a mypoic view of how much people are engaged in this process
• the IA/NH "momentum" is really dangerous (and continually infuriating to me) - we need to reform the primary process to get rid of group think - then add...
• so many undecideds - this convo, and a convo with the parents both coincided with people simply wanting/willing to vote for "whoever can beat trump"
• @No1, i know we always admit how small a group it is, but in a chat of 13 "well educated" black chicks, not a bernie supporter among them - just like last week, the appeal of the middle is real
• the "i'd pay to see bloomberg tear trump apart" comment made me a couple of them - NY born & raised & current resident at that, but reinforced the offline "appeal" of bloomberg as a real threat. and opened my mind to the fact that even black voters may be swayed by the momentum of candidates (amy, pete, bloom) who are being torn apart online for being bad on black issues. it hasn't hit the less engaged yet, and if/when it does, will it matter?

not scientific or representative, just a slice of a few convos this week