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Well, that's factually inaccurate and the fact that Buttibot has a slight delegate lead despite being in a more congested lane (Biden and Klobuchar) is evidence of this. Not that I'm surprised people here would draw the wrong conclusions from the state of the race.
My take is and always has been that this is a center left country and the dems are still a center left party.

The fact that you can't win the presidency without younger more progressive voters doesn't change that. Particularly because the same can be said about any major block of dem voters.

But ultimately I think we agree on this.
Yes, and he also gave money to Republicans as he did with Pat Toomey 2016. I'm not giving him a pass for that especially when it's being argued that he's an actual Democrat over members in better standing.
He did. That's why I often group him with Manchin. I think they operate the same overall spectrum despite being more liberal and conservative in different areas. For example, the environment and gun control.
I don't disagree, the genesis of our back and forth was about your characterization of Bloomberg and Sanders.

I think that Sanders is a good and crafty politicians who has been doing this his entire life. It is sad to me that he doesn't have a larger coalition with a group he's caucused with for 3 decades. Maybe it's because he isn't interested. Maybe it's because it's not in his repertoire, but I think it's a big deal.

At far as bloomberg, I was wrong and thought he was still a dem when he was mayor. But his policies pretty much say to me that he's a billionaire who has a few pet projects but still ultimately holds negative views of minorities and the poor. Still, he'd fall in line with moderate dems because he craves power just like Trump.
 

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today's reality check (based on groupchat convo):
  • coli (twitter) has a mypoic view of how much people are engaged in this process
  • the IA/NH "momentum" is really dangerous (and continually infuriating to me) - we need to reform the primary process to get rid of group think - then add...
  • so many undecideds - this convo, and a convo with the parents both coincided with people simply wanting/willing to vote for "whoever can beat trump"
  • @No1, i know we always admit how small a group it is, but in a chat of 13 "well educated" black chicks, not a bernie supporter among them - just like last week, the appeal of the middle is real
  • the "i'd pay to see bloomberg tear trump apart" comment made me :stopitslime: a couple of them - NY born & raised & current resident at that, but reinforced the offline "appeal" of bloomberg as a real threat. and opened my mind to the fact that even black voters may be swayed by the momentum of candidates (amy, pete, bloom) who are being torn apart online for being bad on black issues. it hasn't hit the less engaged yet, and if/when it does, will it matter?
not scientific or representative, just a slice of a few convos this week :manny:
People don’t follow politics closely. At the end of the day, people vote according to interest and who is around them. Sanders lost voters making over 100k in NH. All of his black organizers are trying to organize working class black people. I wouldn’t expect it to trickle into most of our circles. I would say anecdotally that the black men in my circle like Bernie more than the black women do. It was that way with Hillary as well. People 25 and under like him a lot though.
 

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This thread sums up Warren’s online campaign right now so much lmao. I’m cracking the fukk up. Whole thread is great

Amusing that the coli brehs here who support her tout her like she’s got this huge black following when everyone else on the planet see her supporters as fake progressive bougie white moms :pachaha:
 

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WELL, WELL WELL...

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Anybody that knows anything about politics including Bernie himself knows this is the most likely scenario. Only his most delusional supporters don’t understand this. But just like I criticized Warren for making this public, I have to do the same with AOC. I don’t get why she would say this out load.
 
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