dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
So no. Aight. Good nightLets not do this dear
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Kenny West
Veteran
Dont be a pessimist
I look forward to joining hands with you to take the white house for the eventual progressive democratic nominee
#unity
A large number of anti-establishment voters have found themselves there because they've been saying shyt like this for years if not decades and the Democratic establishment has proven themselves far more concerned with kissing corporate ass and juicing the economy than saving the environment or reducing emissions.
Do you believe the science on climate change? Do you believe that shyt you just said about flooding and freshwater and misery? Do you trust the scientists when they tell you that establishment proposals on climate don't have a prayer of stopping that kind of shyt from happening? Did you wince when Obama BRAGGED about how much he had expanded oil production? Did you make noise when the Obama EPA incarcerated Black environmental activists who upset their corporate donors?
No one who realizes the severity of what is going on thinks the Biden is actually going to do what it takes on climate change and other environmental issues. He's dropped the ball before and he will drop the ball again.
57 Climate Scientists Object After Biden Falsely Claims "Not a Single Solitary Scientist" Thinks Sanders' Green New Deal Can Work
Democratic primary voters like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal more than Joe Biden's climate plan
What’s Joe Biden going to do on climate change? Look at his record under Obama.
The once and future Democratic consensus on climate change
Seems like the worst transgression people can come up with is one of his staffers telling the truth about who makes up her voting base, and if this is accurate, the truth about her splitting the vote, that is HARSH!
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What’s the percentages in Florida?
I got a text from the Bernie campaign the other day and may put some work in.
Of course they're not establishment dems, we already know that.
This is when the Red vs. Blue wars get straight stupid. No one in the real world cares about getting called a "traitor" or being threatened, "Are you a Dem first or not!?!!" That's almost clownish. Bernie appeals to a ton of people who have given up on the Democratic party. You have to deal with that fact.
However, so long as we're talking about traitors and threatening people's supporters, explain these numbers:
That poll was entirely different last week. Bernie was last and Liz was second to last of supporters that would back trump.Bernie is from tiny ass Vermont and is an independent so he's never had to make concessions because he's never tried to pass anything
He can pop shyt and no one holds him accountable because no one even expects anything form him
Remember, Vermont has ONE chair in the house of representatives, so the same lazy voters from Vermont been letting him say whatever for 30 years
That was an older one, this is the February numbers:
I looked into the crosstabs to see if I could generate the second set of numbers myself but I didn't want to have to calculate it out for every damn iteration, so I'm just doing the most important ones. (Note - Dems who are "pro-Biden" or "pro-Trump" but would chose Trump over their own candidate just means that Biden/Sanders is their favorite out of the Dem options.)
Would you choose Trump over Biden?
Tulsi supporters: 86%
Klobuchar supporters: 30%
Bloomberg supporters: 21%
Warren supporters: 12%
Sanders supporters: 11%
Biden supporters: 8%
Would you choose Trump over Sanders?
Tulsi supporters: 48%
Klobuchar supporters: 33%
Bloomberg supporters: 19%
Warren supporters: 8%
Biden supporters: 8%
Sanders supporters: 5%
Did you vote for Trump in 2016?
Tulsi supporters: 43%
Bloomberg supporters: 13%
Klobuchar supporters: 11%
Biden supporters: 5%
Sanders supporters: 4%
Warren supporters: 3%
Worth pointing out that the numbers have wild uncertainty levels as only Bernie (166) and Biden (127) even had 100 respondents in the breakdown. lol at the 21 Tulsi supporters in the poll basically being Republicans.
Th3G3ntleman
Superstar
Inauthenticty to progressive causes
Voted for trumps war budget
Consulting background
Background as a tough on crime Republican
Bends the knee to the establishment when the going gets tough
I don't buy her as branding as progressive and neither does America
Warren has no views on criminal justice out there. So because she was a republican we're just gonna attribute something that doesn't exist to her and hope that shyt flies.This is coming from a supporter of the guy who voted for the crime bill. Literally couldn't be tougher on crime that bill
at people still using her time as a lawyer. Despite the numerous articles stating exactly what she was doing as a lawyer. The fact that she wasn't unemployed or a useless member of the house for decades works against her.Even the War Budget talking point is garbage. She has a tangible constituency in Mass that thrives on military dollars. She doesn't have the luxury of having no real voting constituency who gives a damn what you do like Bernie.
Rest of what you wrote is
Yall remember a couple months ago when Bernie took the first shot with that script that basically called her a candidate of the elites who brought nothing new? Remember what these niccas was saying? We need to up them post. A lot of "toughen up it's a primary:". "He's just showing a political contrast" That energy seems to be severely lacking these days
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the next guy
Superstar
Man I don't know where the congress thread is haha.Edit: Buttigieg dropping out is why I think early voting without rank choice is a bad thing and why I haven't voted for Warren yet.
Probably Biden tbh. It doesn't really make sense for them to go to Warren when she's never even finished higher than him in a caucus/primary. They probably think she (and Klob) is next to drop out, so they'd be even more skeptical of voting for [them].
Anyway, if you (not you personally) want to get an accurate snapshot of 2nd choice look at the aggregate not one poll by a middling pollster. Like, it's March 2020 and posters here still think a single poll is the end all be all instead of a data point with varying accuracy.
Well, the good thing is Buttigieg needs something to get him out of IN and Biden is the only person running who would give it to him. Well, Bloomberg but he's not winning the nomination.
He could be Sec of Vet affairs, HUD (dicey given some of his complaints as mayor), Transportation, HHS, or Interior and his credentials aren't any worse than his predecessors.
The play is simple, serve as a Sec and move the family to NOVA (the area fits his profile well). Now he can run statewide in VA while being able to parry carpetbagger label and he'd have more name rec than the majority of his primary opponents. He's young enough that he doesn't need to run for POTUS immediately and can fix his weak areas.
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JMurder
SOHH Member since 01...
shyts hilarious
Even the War Budget talking point is garbage. She has a tangible constituency in Mass that thrives on military dollars. She doesn't have the luxury of having no real voting constituency who gives a damn what you do like Bernie.
Rest of what you wrote is
Yall remember a couple days months ago when Bernie took the first shot with that script that basically called her a candidate of the elites who brought nothing new? Remember what these niccas was saying? We need to up them post. A lot of "toughen up it's a primary:". He's just showing a political contrast" That energy seems to be severely lacking these days
Hope Warren embarrasses herself in her home state by losing it. Should have dropped out
FukkaPaidEmail
Retired Hoodrat whisperer
Nah that would set a horrible precedentObama not endorsing biden is low key one of the biggest snake moves ever.
Imagine riding with someone for 8 years and then when it's time for them to ride for you they tell you they want to wait and see.