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Bro I’ve seen your football posting, you’re a no-bs, facts first poster. All this “Liz is a treacherous snake” shyt is for the bros buying into the personality cult around Bernie, they’re not in this for creating actual progressive change in this country. Any Bernie supporter with a brain could see that even if Bernie is the best option, Warren is far and away the 2nd best option and a proven progressive fighting for a wealth tax, universal healthcare and fixing the government to work for the working class.
Exactly. I'm for Bernie, but I can't deny that he's more of a populist than Liz. They complement each other well. Would be amazing to see both in office, idgaf who out of these two would be actual president.
 

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So she'll sell her political beliefs down the river just because some people said mean things about her on twitter? All while Bernie hasn't said a single negative thing about her during the primary, despite Warren herself running an increasingly aggresive gameplan directly at Bernie.

Warren and her supporters need to grow the fukk up.
Again, you’re telling on yourself. Her political beliefs are bigger than Bernie Sanders. That’s something y’all consistently fail to realize, the progressive movement isn’t only found in Bernie die-hards. M4A is bigger than Bernie, GND is bigger than Bernie, helping the working class is bigger than Bernie. You know, #NotMeUs. If she feels like Bernie himself ain’t the best play to get progressive policies enacted, then she’s well within her rights to move like she’s been moving.
 

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Exactly. I'm for Bernie, but I can't deny that he's more of a populist than Liz. They complement each other well. Would be amazing to see both in office, idgaf who out of these two would be actual president.
Bernie has the juice and looks to be the choice the progressive movement made. I think Warren would be better, but he’s winning fair and square. That’s democracy. :yeshrug:
 

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Is it still the “Establishment” if the whole party doesn’t fukk with you :wow: Maybe you just suck and people don’t fukk with you (your ideas are good though). I got a feeling if Warren was the lead, the Democrats would back her. Dude calling all the people he needs in Washington sell outs and corporate puppets and wonder why he has no support. That nikka should be best friends with Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid instead he purposely tries to make everybody an enemy if they dont pass his inane purity tests. How much change you gonna make from Vermont if you lose? None. Make whatever alliances you need to make. Get in office. Then you can pass bills and make change. He playing connect four out here :mjlol:
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If the system is corrupt, you're saying play by the rules, kiss ass so you have a fallback plan ?

:camby:

If the system is corrupt and it needs change, you yell as loud as possible and try to get people on your side. Sacrifice everything, and expose every corrupt piece of shyt. If you lose, you lose knowing that you did your best. Ain't no half measures there, that's what centrists do. Yeah you will have a lot more enemies. It's the cost of speaking for what you believe in.
 

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Trump and his 2020 campaign team are trying to win over black voters, but they will fail
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Sophia A. Nelson

In his State of the Union address this month, as preposterous as it seems, President Donald Trump made it clear he intends to reach out to black voters. He made one of the last living Tuskegee airmen, 100-year-old Charles McGee, a brigadier general, and he had other black guests present in the gallery with the first lady.

After the speech, a friend sent me a photo of a booklet he received from an organization called BlakPac. The cover had a photo of Trump with an image of Frederick Douglass. This is the same Trump who in February 2017 said of the famed escaped slave-turned-abolitionist, "Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who's done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice."

The president's comments caused a media firestorm as it became apparent that he did not know much about Douglass, including, possibly, that he died in 1895.

The interesting thing about this brochure was that the banner on the cover read: “Make Black America Great Again.” It boldly proclaims: “Exposing how modern day Jim Crow Democrats are keeping black Americans under heel, and how Trump’s conservative agenda will set them free.”

What really struck me was the last sentence: that somehow Trump is going to set black people “free.”

Not buying what Trump is selling
Free from what? Policies that have protected the civil rights and voting rights of black voters? Provided health care for black Americans? Free school lunches and prenatal care for black women and children? All policies, by the way, that the president and his party have cut and restricted since taking office.

Let me be direct: Black voters aren’t buying what Trump is peddling.

How do I know? I am a black person, who was a loyal Republican for decades. I recently left the GOP in protest of the president's conduct, as have many of us regardless of race or gender.

A poll of black Americans published last month in The Washington Post showed where Trump stands: 90% disapprove of his job performance, 83% think he's a racist, and 65% say it's a bad time to be black in America.

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How can this be when black unemployment is at historic lows and Trump has shown support for historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs)? The economy is roaring along, and the stock market was strong until this week's coronavirus panic.

A facade:Don't be fooled by slick ad. Most people given clemency by Trump don't look like Alice Marie Johnson

The Trump team is actually taking this issue seriously. They know that white voters have deserted the Democratic Party and that to win, the eventual Democratic nominee must get over 90% of the black vote and at least 39% of the white vote. That's something Barack Obama managed to do in 2008 and 2012, according to exit polls, but Hillary Clinton fell short in 2016 with 37% of the white vote.

Literally trying to buy the black vote
More evidence of Trump’s efforts to reach black voters surfaced in a Politico report about black groups and at least one pastor holding events in black communities where organizers hand out tens of thousands of dollars to attendees. Where I grew up, we called it “walking around money” or “street money” that campaign surrogates gave to people to get them out to vote for their candidate.

The black vote has eluded Republicans since the Nixon era. In 1960, the Democratic nominee, Sen. John F. Kennedy, won 68% of the black vote to Nixon’s 32%. That dropped to 6% in 1964 when Sen. Barry Goldwater, an opponent of the Civil Rights Act, was the party standard-bearer. By 1968, Nixon had gotten the black vote numbers back up (in a three-man race) to 15%.

Fast-forward to 1988: Republican Vice President George H.W. Bush got 11% of the black vote. That fell to 10% in 1992. GOP nominee Bob Dole hit a high of 12% in 1996 with running mate Jack Kemp (a beloved figure in the black community) with George W. Bush falling to 9% in 2000.

No Republican since Dole and Bush 41 has scored double digits with the black vote.

The problem for Trump isn’t the economy or his support for HBCUs, criminal justice reform and the like. His problem is him. His mouth. His history calling for the death penalty of the "Central Park Five." His being sued for housing discrimination in the 1970s. His open, hostile and racist birther attacks on America's 44th president. His calling African nations “s-------” countries. His open and vicious attacks on black women like former adviser Omarosa Manigault Newman or members of Congress also known as "The Squad" — calling them “dogs” and “wacky,” telling them to "go back" to the corrupt countries they supposedly came from.

End careers if not cowardice:Impeachment trial verdict reminds us why we fight to defeat Donald Trump and his enablers

Black women are the most devoted and loyal voters to the Democratic Party. Trump will move no black female voters to his column in November. They dislike him intensely, as do I.

The GOP is not an open, big-tent party. It is the party of Trump. You back him, are loyal to him, or you risk being personally attacked and destroyed by his minions. Here’s the bottom line: His giving a voucher scholarship to a black child or awarding a Tuskegee airman the rank of brigadier general at his State of the Union is good TV. But that is all it is.

Sophia A. Nelson is a CNN commentator, journalist and author of “E Pluribus One: Reclaiming Our Founders' Vision for a United America.” She is a senior adviser to The Lincoln Project. Follow her on Twitter: @IAmSophiaNelson
 

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If the system is corrupt, you're saying play by the rules, kiss ass so you have a fallback plan ?

:camby:

If the system is corrupt and it needs change, you yell as loud as possible and try to get people on your side. Sacrifice everything. If you lose, you lose knowing that you did your best. Ain't no half measures there, that's what centrists do.

Maybe one day when you graduate high school you’ll learn that you’re not gonna agree with everyone on every single issue. As long as you can meet 70% of the way on most issues, you can still get alot of great things done for the world. That’s much better than taking your ball and going home, and getting nothing done because there’s one thing you don’t like. He’s a political Stannis Baratheon. Nobody likes him (it’s evident now Hilary was right) and he doesn’t compromise. I don’t want a President like that. If he can’t compromise and find common ground with “his own party”, what’s his approach gonna be with foreign leaders? I’m good on him. A candidate with more electability will come along and push similar ideas through.
 
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