2021 NFL Offseason Thread

[jetflyinglimousineriding]

You know he's on the outside but on the inside

 

[CarltonJunior]

The St. Louis Battlehawks gonna hit his line.

 

[calh45]

Queen was not even close to the best defensive rookie last year. He was a liability in coverage his coverage ratings were terrible ask any ravens fan. By the end of the the the season they were almost using him as a 2 down linebacker because of this. Him and brooks were a wash honestly. Winfield was much better along w several other defensive rookies

Winfield came through. I forgot he was a rookie too. You got me on that one.

Queen was after that for me. I can forgive a rookie who's the starting LB, on the second best defense in football, playing in the toughest division, and leading the team in tackles to have some coverage slips towards the end of the year when they get tape on him.

Sweat is a beast but Chase dominated too...and you can't compare offensive talent to defensive talent, its apples and oranges.
Chase generates a shytton of pressures and for only 6 sacks or whatever he's had, he had like 5 forced fumbles. again, the line is dominant and makes the whole defense damn near elite
the lines can't cheat and slide to sweat, they have to account for the problem that is Chase. and he ended the year on a complete tear.

I really don't see how he's a disappointment. he was ranked #2 rookie by pff. he was jumping off the tape for most of these games

I don't trust PFF stat folks when it comes to their position rankings. This will be a future debate for us. I've said going back to Ohio State that I've never liked the use of his hands and his attack angles are off. Bosa by comparison, who plays the same position, use of hands is incredible and leverage play is awesome too . We see different things when we watch Chase play. He's athletic as fukk, but that's all I see and that's not enough to me.

 

[South Paw]

Winfield came through. I forgot he was a rookie too. You got me on that one.

Queen was after that for me. I can forgive a rookie who's the starting LB, on the second best defense in football, playing in the toughest division, and leading the team in tackles to have some coverage slips towards the end of the year when they get tape on him.


I don't trust PFF stat folks when it comes to their position rankings. This will be a future debate for us. I've said going back to Ohio State that I've never liked the use of his hands and his attack angles are off. Bosa by comparison, who plays the same position, use of hands is incredible and leverage play is awesome too . We see different things when we watch Chase play. He's athletic as fukk, but that's all I see and that's not enough to me.

I'd take chase young and chinn over him easily along with winfield. I agree with @yseJ about sacks not being the end all be all.
Clowney is another example (even though he always fukks up his contract situations), some guys are pressure guys and thats fine, they dont have to get home to always make major impact on the plays. some fans look at sacks and judge a player off that.

Queen had a good year but i dont think he should of been anywhere near the DROY discussion, that was mostly hype from his draft status I believe. Hes young though hell probably develop into a 3 down linebacker im sure.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Totally forgot about Gurley

 

[Conscious Pilot]

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

Imagine being the organization that paid this guy 100 mill after five games and trading away three #1 picks to draft Mac Jones

 

[mozichrome]

Ray Lewis gets passionate: 'It's really hard to watch football!' | First Take Pro Football Hall of Fame LB Ray Lewis joins First Take for an interview and airs out his frustration with the way football is officiated from college to the professional level.

 

[b. woods]

 

[b. woods]

Double post.

 

[South Paw]

So Reed basically gave up 3.5 mill against his agents advice cuz he was mad Seattle wouldn't give him an extension

 

[chargers31]

 

[Lex218]

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[mozichrome]

random player thought of....jay ajayi, whatever happened to that boy

 

[NatiboyB]

I Need an old school Raiders fan to come through and tell me what was it about Sebastian janikowski that made him a first rd nfl draft pick?
And what’s crazy is low key I think he earned that selection. And now come in all the years since than has no one else ever came close. I think it was a 2nd rd kicker picked a few years ago.