Yeah but he was so young at 17/18 by 2010 he was only 24.2010’s star is wild when you consider Bron came into the league in 03
2025 playoffs officially marked the end of the 2010s era and stars
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shyt like that really makes me appreciate what Mike was able to do in his time with the bulls. How much he accomplished first …retiring for a year coming back just to dominate for another 3peat. That is truly some goat epic shyt and I am happy I was able to witness it
I do feel bad for NBA fans now because superstar players don’t even play regular season games on a consistent basis and it seems like more often than not star players are going down with major injuries in the playoffs.
The NBA is always looking for the next superstar win. The current ones are winding down.
Next MJ:
Kobe
Grant Hill
Penny
Vince
The league has been thirsty as fukk to find a another polarizing figure like Michael Jordan but no one has come close.
Nikka stfu. They're in their prime age. Their not old yet dumbass
They are the gap generation even though they have been top 5 guys this decade. Embid was the only one who fully tried to embrace American culture. Jokic didn’t give a fukk and Gianni’s was in between.
Young man's game
What American culture and how does one embrace it? And how is that relevant?
Giannis wife is African American, his kids will be and he works and lives in the US. Do you mean that one needs to switch allegiance and play for the US national team to embrace the culture?
Breh producing movies about the American dream and shyt, rapping in videos, sons name is Maverick. How much can you demand from a person who isn't American?
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American superstar talent has fallen off a cliff that's the main reason. Best talents from the 20s era is foreign - Jokic, SGA, Giannis, Luka, Embiid, Wemby.
Ant, Tatum, Ja, Hali, Brunson, Book, DMitch, Cade, Paolo.... They nice players but not the historically great or even true MVP level talents like last American superstars. I mean most would say Tatum the best of the 20s Americans and he a prime Paul George level talent..... Maybe Ant elevatin to that level now though. Zion turnin out the way he has was a big blow to American superstar hoops he was supposed to got next. Ja situation too in different way.
it's a league full of world class and even historically unprecedented talent
the nba has undeniably enviable products... the issue is that they don't have the relationship with the public.
popular culture has shifted dramatically from just 20 years ago ... let along Jordan's reign. Jordan was apart of pop culture...
Even while still being "popular" the nba isn't apart of pop culture anymore . An american "superstar" alone can't change that. A superstar is as much (if not more) of a media creation as it is about your talent.
the league in a tricky situation as popular culture is much more ephemeral and less definable than years before... the nba has to insert itself into this matrix somehow. while it may catch their attn lil kids doin tik tok dances at the park aint gonna give af if the cause the league is dominated by someone from iowa
You found time to speak on LeBron but couldn't show up in that warriors game thread
HE DIDNT WIN UNTIL 2012
. I guess jimmy don't deserve to be mentioned in this thread cause he never won
That ship been sailed. Joker and Giannis nem might actually be done in terms of chips. These young dudes are ascending and got squads around them. Its a new day (thats actually more like the old school) in terms of how you win. Its harder to keep teams, especially with older guys together. Bout time the league started moving on.
Y’all p*ssy ass internet nikkas love jumping out the window saying some random disrespectful shyt from behind a screen
They’re a year and 2 years younger than AD you fukking bozo
Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
Yall say you about the youth. Shouldn;t be a problem
Its over for them oldheads
Its over for them oldheads
murksiderock
Superstar
I hear you but to me your "era" is about when you peaked...
Giannis and Embiid didnt become factors until the very end of the 10s (Sixers '18 playoff run after years of misery; Giannis MVP ascension in '19)...
Both guys clearly peaked in the 20s, this the era they made their name at...
Jokic was obviously in The League but his name wasnt even important until they beat LAC in the '20 Semis 3-1 comeback. Everything about him is attached to this era of ball...
LeBron is a unique case in that he can feasibly be tied to the 00s, 10s, and 20s. He made his first Finals and won his first MVP in the 00s. And because of the hoopla he entered with, he's clearly thr most hyped high school to pro guy ever, he was always a name in the 00s. None of these other guys came in with the buzz he had or hit the ground running the way he did...
But his core era is clearly the 10s because thats the era he peaked in...
I was listening to a podcast the other day and they were talking about the playoffs, and spent anout 3 minutes or so on LeBron. I do think as this decade has marched on (we already halfway thru 2025
), some people who didn't appreciate LeBron in real time are beginning to. Because one of the hosts was essentially saying (I'm paraphrasing):"Boston has been good Tatum's 8-year entire career. Essentially you can say they've run The East and he's been the East's most consistent, if not best, player for 8 years........and they've got one championship and two Finals appearances out of this stretch of dominance.
If you think Giannis has been the East's best player, he's got one Finals appearance in this stretch of time. If you think Jokic has been The League's best player, he has one Finals run...
LeBron went to eight straight Finals. He went to 9 Finals in 10 years. The talent in The League continues to increase but he put up an unprecedented run of individual dominance"...
The other guys essentially agreed and that was the extent pretty much of what they mentioned anout LeBron, but I'm mentioning it in reference to your quote, in that I don't think people view it quite like, nobody has come close since Mike...
Plenty of people of course view Mike as better and the two 3peats was a unique scale of individual dominance that won't be forgotten. I think LeBron's peak will also not be forgotten, 8 straight runs to The Finals is a unique feat, 9 in 10 years is a unique run...
I feel like, just like we'll never see a team win 8 straight championships again (Russell's 60s Celtics, has never happened since);
We'll never see a guy anchor two different 3peats (Mike, its never happened again since);
I don't think we'll ever see a 3peat again (been over 20 years since Shaq and Kobe did it, I don't think its happening again);
I also don't think we'll see an individual run of 8 straight NBA Finals, or 9 in 10 years. No one player is maxing that level of dominance and it is a hallmark to LeBron's career that people will remember...
Jordan is better to many but LeBron is the bar many of these young guys measure themselves to, and I think his career was accomplished enough to say he came close enough to whatever Mike was, in a different, unique way of individual dominance...
Was a great run
Great memories
Great memories
