2026 Midterm Elections Thread

[Loose]

The Pod he went on is a big anti Zionist but from a right wing perspective

(The pod host believes Israel popped Charlie Kirk because Kirk stopped Trump from fully committing to an Iran invasion last year.)

Platner is probably drawn to that Pod because there’s a soft left wing and right wing populist understanding that America needs to be decoupled from Israel for us to progress as a nation

Good post rare but good post

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

A politician or public figure doesn’t legitimize someone simply by appearing on their platform. The point is to reach the audience where they already are. Media ecosystems are fragmented, and people consume information in very different places. If a large portion of voters rely on Joe Rogan, Fox News, or any other outlet, then engaging with those platforms is part of being consistent and transparent about your ideas. Showing up doesn’t mean you endorse the host’s worldview, it means you’re willing to speak directly to the people who listen to them. Appearing on platforms doesn't mean you bend over backwards like Fetterman Gavin newsome and others whom have done so. Just because you don't agree with a host doesn't mean you duck smoke like kamala did to Joe Rogan , even convincing 2% of their base could swing elections

Dems haven't had Susan Collins seat since the 90s you should feel positive about November

What you're arguing only makes sense in a neutral media environment. We don't live in one. The standard shouldn't be whether someone is groveling. It should be whether the platform itself regularly traffics in racist conspiracy content.

Capitulating is obviously worse. But repeated proximity to those ecosystems isn't neutral just because the candidate presents themselves as a "polished" insurgent, especially someone like Platner.

I asked you something before: Do you think it's okay to go on David Duke's sundown hour, just as long as you're not "capitulating" to their views?

As far as Susan Collins: If you're running to a candidate that consistently votes for corporate friendly tax policy, is hostile to labor and union organizing, and supports other policy outcomes that materially harms you, then what is motivating you?

 

[wire28]

The Pod he went on is a big anti Zionist but from a right wing perspective

(The pod host believes Israel popped Charlie Kirk because Kirk stopped Trump from fully committing to an Iran invasion last year.)

Platner is probably drawn to that Pod because there’s a soft left wing and right wing populist understanding that America needs to be decoupled from Israel for us to progress as a nation

Which is no problem, the problem is he felt comfortable enough to pick them over the countless others that also agree with the bold but without the white supremacist undertones

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

The Pod he went on is a big anti Zionist but from a right wing perspective

(The pod host believes Israel popped Charlie Kirk because Kirk stopped Trump from fully committing to an Iran invasion last year.)

Platner is probably drawn to that Pod because there’s a soft left wing and right wing populist understanding that America needs to be decoupled from Israel for us to progress as a nation

The Pod he went on is a straight up white nationalist/supremacist perspective. Stop trying to sanitize it.

 

[wire28]

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.


I want you or anyone who believes this to explain to me how Zionism has a more foundational and system-wide impact on American life than 400 years of racial hierarchy. Are you saying that Zionism has diminished white racism/supremacy to the point that it plays a secondary role? If Zionism disappeared tomorrow, would it be easier for this country move forward? Would it become possible to achieve materially beneficial progress for all of this country's citizens? Will the militarism that distorts this country's priorities change? Or will the same regressive elements exist, that existed long before Israel became a state, and long before the AIPAC was created, or the "special relationship" was solidified?

I'm not saying that Pro-Israel lobbying doesn't have incredible influence on our foreign policy or election outcomes. They can make or break a candidate. But white racism is a foundational, centuries-old domestic structure embedded in every single aspect of this country. It is why this country isn't what it should be.

Well said. We shouldn’t allow our white leftist friends to fool us into thinking the gradual well deserved elimination of aipacs influence over the Dems and people in general solves the root problem of this country for people that look like us.

 

[Outlaw]

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Why wouldn’t run as a right wing candidate then?

I want you or anyone who believes this to explain to me how Zionism has a more foundational and system-wide impact on American life than 400 years of racial hierarchy. Are you saying that Zionism has diminished white racism/supremacy to the point that it plays a secondary role?

Yes I’m saying modern day. Of course cac supremacy was a more inhibiting block for social and economic progress in this country for a majority of its history but post civil rights era I think Zionism has taken the top spot.

White supremacy is still an issue but it’s secondary to Zionism.

If Zionism disappeared tomorrow, would it be easier for this country move forward? Would it become possible to achieve materially beneficial progress for all of this country's citizens? Will the militarism that distorts this country's priorities change? Or will the same regressive elements exist, that existed long before Israel became a state, and long before the AIPAC was created, or the "special relationship" was solidified?

If I gave you an unfiltered answer you would brush me off as a conspiracy nut more than likely so I won’t go too in depth but the Epstien files opened my eyes to a lot of things.

I believe the reason we spend so much on military is for the benefit of Israel

If the Zionist influence was gone tomorrow, we would spend less on the military and invest more domestically.

Think about it from a market-cap standpoint the MIC and defense companies are small businesses compared to our big tech and leading non military industries yet our institutional investment is completely asymmetrically slanted toward military which downstream benefits Zionist state why do you think that is?


Why do you think the only bipartisan agreement our parties can come to is the support of the Zionist state?


Most if not all of our politicians are Israel first, so of course- if that influence is gone then Americans would benefit, we essentially function as a vassal for the benefit of the Zionist state.

 

[Loose]

What you're arguing only makes sense in a neutral media environment. We don't live in one. The standard shouldn't be whether someone is groveling. It should be whether the platform itself regularly traffics in racist conspiracy content.

Groveling and capitulation is my first and only concern, if someone wanted to debate a white supremacist and son him in his arguments I have zero issue with that. When you completely disregard your stances and agree with the host is my issue.

Capitulating is obviously worse. But repeated proximity to those ecosystems isn't neutral just because the candidate presents themselves as a "polished" insurgent, especially someone like Platner.

Im going to give you my opinion below on this

I asked you something before: Do you think it's okay to go on David Duke's sundown hour, just as long as you're not "capitulating" to their views?

I see zero difference between David Duke and someone like Joe Rogan, Benny Johnson, Steve Bannon, Ben Shapiro, etc. So if the standard is that Democrats shouldn’t speak to these people at all, then I’m okay with that, we should state that going forward instead of picking and choosing when to be concerned. They’re all white supremacists in my eyes, including 90% of Fox News hosts, 90% of zionist host( majority of cnn host). If this type of purity politics is the goal let's go for it , dems won't have many avenues at all to flip votes or get their message out

 

[Outlaw]

The Pod he went on is a straight up white nationalist/supremacist perspective. Stop trying to sanitize it.

I’m not familiar with the YouTuber other than him tying Zionist to Kirk’s murder so I’m not going to defend his honor.

I’m not a Platner fan but the through-line of why he would go on that Pod is that they have a shared dislike for Zionism.

I’m not sanitizing anything, I will straight up tell you what I think

 

[BaggerofTea]

Same thing is happening in Texas. And don't get me wrong. I don't believe Jasmine can win. I just don't think a less charismatic but quiet about Gun Rights non Beto can win either. That said the way White Progressives can't see that they are doing identity politics around Talerico, or Platner is a problem that is going to plague the Democrats/Progressive left for a long ass time. White people can't see that they ARE an IDENTITY, that MAGA, that the "Working Class" shyt Bernie and his acolytes be spitting is WHITE coded. Also there is a subconscious backlash towards the Black voter block. They hate that we're the most consistent Democrat base. They hate that we can read between the lines when their faves are dog whistling us. Like Black People were all over not going with Fetterman and supported Lamb and the guy that is escaping my memory at the moment. But, the white progressives were like no we have to go with Fetterman and now look at him and THEM.

I think Talerico will be a fine Senator, but I don't trust Platner at all. I trust him less than Manchin, I trust him less than Sinema. And I will gladly eat all the crow if he's the uber leftist fighting working class hero all the podcast bros and YT media say he is

the guy was a blackwater contractor

skepticism is well founded

 

[Outlaw]

Which is no problem, the problem is he felt comfortable enough to pick them over the countless others that also agree with the bold but without the white supremacist undertones

There’s an overlap between the cacs who watch the pod and would be convinced to vote for Platner over Collins only because he’s an anti Zionist even if they are historically Republican

 

[wire28]

Most if not all of our politicians are Israel first, so of course- if that influence is gone then Americans would benefit, we essentially function as a vassal for the benefit of the Zionist state

Which goes back to me and @Pull Up the Roots point, is what Americans do you think would actually be the primary beneficiaries? Not people that look like us.

There’s an overlap between the cacs who watch the pod and would be convinced to vote for Platner over Collins only because he’s an anti Zionist even if they are historically Republican

He should do what he think needs to do to win over the cacs of Maine. That doesn’t mean we need to approve of it. It’s not a good look. He could have went on Jennifer Welch pod and shyt on Charles Hakeem and aipac all day and got all the good press he is looking for. But he feels comfortable on that one, which gives me additional insight into his character

 

[wire28]

the guy was a blackwater contractor

skepticism is well founded

That alone would be a redline for 90% of other candidates but nikkas caping for the man like he’s Bernie’s only son

Like it’s one thing cheerlead for him but then to do it and act like you wouldn’t be lambasting 50 other people for having the exact same resume as him

Can we atleast fake some consistency??

 

[Loose]

 

[Outlaw]

Which goes back to me and @Pull Up the Roots point, is what Americans do you think would actually be the primary beneficiaries? Not people that look like us.

I agree but if the trillions invested in the Middle East since the war on Zion’s enemies began after 9/11 was invested back domestically, even if cacs disproportionately benefited the most from it; wouldn’t we all as a country be better off?

We are a stagnant nation because our politicians rather invest in fighting for Israel than putting it back into the country

He should do what he think needs to do to win over the cacs of Maine. That doesn’t mean we need to approve of it. It’s not a good look. He could have went on Jennifer Welch pod and shyt on Charles Hakeem and aipac all day and got all the good press he is looking for. But he feels comfortable on that one, which gives me additional insight into his character

I agree but there are voters he can reach by going on that pod than going on a liberal mod and shytting on Democrats.

It’s hard to understand but there is a shared understanding between the people who believe that Zionist control our country versus the people who think that’s a baseless conspiracy not needed to be taken seriously

 

[Loose]

the guy was a blackwater contractor

skepticism is well founded

Isn't true he worked for a state department contractor not black water, black water hasn't existed since 2012.

Skepticism is fine, solider often get emailed on contracts