2pac & Biggie together

[lil dice]

 

[Marvel]

Legendary

 

[Tuling]

Biggie killed it

 

[Rapmastermind]

Full Uncut Version. They were really close friends, they are both Gemini's. This is why Pac was so angry with Biggie cause he really had love for him 4 years later they would both be dead. It's sad cause they had great chemistry on Wax. A Tupac/Biggie LP would be Epic and it would of happen if the shooting didn't happen.

 

[HendriX]

Pac shiit may sound basic and weak but he was actually freestylin..bigs shiit, dope as fukk was clearly rehearsed

legends:oba:

 

[lil dice]

Dunno who is better PAC has more deep songs

 

[Rapmastermind]

Technically speaking it's clear Biggie was the better emcee as far as flow,lyrics, wordplay, metaphors, entrandre's etc. Pac strongest point like Biggie was also flow, his flow was dope but lyrically he's decent. Emotionally Pac had a way of pulling you in with his words. Subject Matter of course Pac went deeper than Big. But Big was still deep just in a different way. Pac was more political for sure. Biggie was the better storyteller and had a way of painting pictures with limited words that you could visualize as if you were watching a movie on the big screen. I don't think you can really compare them, to me they are the Ying and Yang of Hip Hop.

 

[Pop123]

Random…I love Big, and Pac is Top 3 ever for me…but Pac was on some super hater shyt, . “Listen to him!! He stole my style!! Now he going double platinum and shyt!! With my style!!! I gave him that!!”

My boy was on complete bullshyt and hatin, . , Harlem nig shyt. Even if you did give him the style to run with…bro, why you this mad about it? Wasn’t that his little mans that he had up under the arm schooling and shyt? Should be proud right? I blame Suge, son was the biggest hater in the history of Earth lol

 

[Complexion]

Pac was mad because BIG didn't look out for him the way he expected. I do get the feeling that BIG did say something along the lines of "You're a rapper, they actually live this. Be careful" as he knew his position but Pac being hardheaded ignored it and that led to the rift but you cannot deny that BIG took a heck of a lot of influence from Pac.

The cadence inspiration with buuuuurthdayys being the wuuuurst daaaays and various other bits like beat selection and topics were so obvious. Said before that BIG without meeting Pac would be a totally different artist but if the script was flipped they never linked Pac would be the same except still living. That is unless he found someone else to beef with which is entirely probable...

The whole situ is wild when you think that R2D dropped on the day Pac actually did. Would have been so dope to see what these two could've cooked up as friends instead of nemesis because they both had immense talent and came at the rap game from totally different angles but with the same intent.

Truly the yin and yang of hiphop as breh said.

 

[Knicksman20]

Pac was mad because BIG didn't look out for him the way he expected. I do get the feeling that BIG did say something along the lines of "You're a rapper, they actually live this. Be careful" as he knew his position but Pac being hardheaded ignored it and that led to the rift but you cannot deny that BIG took a heck of a lot of influence from Pac.

The cadence inspiration with buuuuurthdayys being the wuuuurst daaaays and various other bits like beat selection and topics were so obvious. Said before that BIG without meeting Pac would be a totally different artist but if the script was flipped they never linked Pac would be the same except still living. That is unless he found someone else to beef with which is entirely probable...

The whole situ is wild when you think that R2D dropped on the day Pac actually did. Would have been so dope to see what these two could've cooked up as friends instead of nemesis because they both had immense talent and came at the rap game from totally different angles but with the same intent.

Truly the yin and yang of hiphop as breh said.

Pac knew who shot him & why shortly after the Quad. He used Big as a scapegoat to the media when he new the truth (but he did that Vibe interview before he found out who had him shot)

Big would've been a GOAT regardless if he met Pac or not; you're Stretch Armstrong reaching with that. Puff was the one steering him into the mainstream & guiding that aspect of his career. Along with Big taking from Heavy D & Big Daddy Kane whom he tried to emulate. Pac did give him game but you're overstating Pac's influence & where it took him

 

[Complexion]

Pac knew who shot him & why shortly after the Quad. He used Big as a scapegoat to the media when he new the truth (but he did that Vibe interview before he found out who had him shot)

Big would've been a GOAT regardless if he met Pac or not; you're Stretch Armstrong reaching with that. Puff was the one steering him into the mainstream & guiding that aspect of his career. Along with Big taking from Heavy D & Big Daddy Kane whom he tried to emulate. Pac did give him game but you're overstating Pac's influence & where it took him

OK, I'll play:

Listen to this:



And contrast it to what followed as BIG went from being the essence of NY MC to a very heavy West Coast influence. 9-3 kicked ad the whole of rap was jocking what was hot at the moment so it is what it is but anyone who says Pac wasn't influential isn't being totally honest. I say this as someone who came up listening to both of them share their talent.

Pac schooled BIG with a lot of his experience and insider tricks about what it takes to make it in rap as its not just about skills but image, positioning the record and appealing to the females whilst pushing those harsh realities and aggressive content. All of which BIG listened to and applied real well.

You can hear a lot of Pacs style in the way he laid his vocals as he obviously molded a lot of what he saw in those sessions because it was working just like you can see the same in all of Pacs affiliates from Syke to the Outlawz as he knew how to makes vocals that grabbed your attention so you'd be a fool not to listen. Pac said himself he jocked his beat selection and topics but I do agree that he went after BIG as he was an easy target for promotion but he did double back once he had the red team backing him before getting clipped.

Either way these two are indelibly linked and one of hip hops greatest what ifs as their talents were cut short just at the point they were growing into their potential so it is what it is.

Us talking about them now energizes their spirits as a man has two deaths. One in the physical and the next the last time he's mentioned by the living so rise in power to the legends.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

OK, I'll play:

Listen to this:



And contrast it to what followed as BIG went from being the essence of NY MC to a very heavy West Coast influence. 9-3 kicked ad the whole of rap was jocking what was hot at the moment so it is what it is but anyone who says Pac wasn't influential isn't being totally honest. I say this as someone who came up listening to both of them share their talent.

Pac schooled BIG with a lot of his experience and insider tricks about what it takes to make it in rap as its not just about skills but image, positioning the record and appealing to the females whilst pushing those harsh realities and aggressive content. All of which BIG listened to and applied real well.

You can hear a lot of Pacs style in the way he laid his vocals as he obviously molded a lot of what he saw in those sessions because it was working just like you can see the same in all of Pacs affiliates from Syke to the Outlawz as he knew how to makes vocals that grabbed your attention so you'd be a fool not to listen. Pac said himself he jocked his beat selection and topics but I do agree that he went after BIG as he was an easy target for promotion but he did double back once he had the red team backing him before getting clipped.

Either way these two are indelibly linked and one of hip hops greatest what ifs as their talents were cut short just at the point they were growing into their potential so it is what it is.

Us talking about them now energizes their spirits as a man has two deaths. One in the physical and the next the last time he's mentioned by the living so rise in power to the legends.

Nikka u just pulled this bullshyt outta ya ass.

Biggie’s west coast influence is from Snoop, Dre, $hort and this nikka



Since 2pac is the reason for Biggie’s success how come all them nikkas all over his albums, Mossalini, Mopreme, Outlawz, etc. is bums who never achieved a quarter of the success Biggie has?

 

[Complexion]

If you had the potential of even being a tiny bit impartial with this I'd engage in discussion but the previous topic you waded into waving your Stan card high and clear said all I needed to hear so I'll bid you good evening with well wishes.

You can't get no stanisfaction.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

If you had the potential of even being a tiny bit impartial with this I'd engage in discussion but the previous topic you waded into waving your Stan card high and clear said all I needed to hear so I'll bid you good evening with well wishes.

You can't get no stanisfaction.

How many styles did Ya mans jack to create albums like MATW, 7DT, AEOM? Why he sound so different than he did early in his career when he was social commentary/concsious rapper?



Since u wanna post old Biggie songs, lets see how ya mans sounded early in his career before he started Shang Tsunging styles from popular gangster rappers and underground nikkas. Talk about how it was revealed that he heard songs from the unfinished RTD album and ran to Biggie’s producer, Easy Mo Bee, to make shyt for his Thug Life and MATW projects, but Biggie’s the thief.

 

[Knicksman20]

OK, I'll play:

Listen to this:



And contrast it to what followed as BIG went from being the essence of NY MC to a very heavy West Coast influence. 9-3 kicked ad the whole of rap was jocking what was hot at the moment so it is what it is but anyone who says Pac wasn't influential isn't being totally honest. I say this as someone who came up listening to both of them share their talent.

Pac schooled BIG with a lot of his experience and insider tricks about what it takes to make it in rap as its not just about skills but image, positioning the record and appealing to the females whilst pushing those harsh realities and aggressive content. All of which BIG listened to and applied real well.

You can hear a lot of Pacs style in the way he laid his vocals as he obviously molded a lot of what he saw in those sessions because it was working just like you can see the same in all of Pacs affiliates from Syke to the Outlawz as he knew how to makes vocals that grabbed your attention so you'd be a fool not to listen. Pac said himself he jocked his beat selection and topics but I do agree that he went after BIG as he was an easy target for promotion but he did double back once he had the red team backing him before getting clipped.

Either way these two are indelibly linked and one of hip hops greatest what ifs as their talents were cut short just at the point they were growing into their potential so it is what it is.

Us talking about them now energizes their spirits as a man has two deaths. One in the physical and the next the last time he's mentioned by the living so rise in power to the legends.

I never said Big wasn't influence by the West coast. King T was big influence along with Snoop. But to say Big sounded West coast isn't true. Some of his tracks did sound like it because the West coast sound was dominant at the time. And again you're overstating Pac's influence.

Pac definitely came off as jealous towards the end & tried to indirectly take credit for Big's success & you're running with that. Pac gave Big game as a friend to help him but it doesn't mean he owes his whole style to him as some of you (and Pac) think lol. If anything it was Puff whom you conveniently left out that tailored Big's style to the mainstream because he was hardcore & only rapped aggressive content which Puff helped him refine. Big & Puff constantly fought because he didn't wanna do it

Pac & Big sound nothing alike & are 2 totally different kinds of rappers