Biggest myth in hip hop history. He didnt really declare war on NY until Hit Em Up. Hit Em Up was released in June, Pac was killed in September. Back then, the business model was totally different. The goal was to sell albums, and having fans anxiously anticipate your album to see what you had to say in response, was ideally brilliant. This two decade old doctrine that Pac had everyone deathly afraid of coming at him, is colossal bullshyt. He simply died before he could receive his comeuppance.
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This is true it wasn't like you could just go put out a song on the internet like it is now. You either was waiting for the next mixtape to drop which was probably a couple of weeks if not months away or wait for the next album which was months away. Case in point LAD which was supposed to come out in Oct of 96. B.I.G did a majority of the album over since a lot of the tracks was originally intended for Pac.
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Mobb deep responded back with drop a gem on em
It's more about how they responded..slick subliminal bullshyt, throwing rocks and then wanting to hide your hands is some shyt that east coast rappers were known to do vs. direct shots and calling out names.
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Also...we have to add the fact that with Meth and Red on the AEOM album.....There really wasn't a definitive impression that Pac was on it like that towards NYC.
Even with Hit Em Up....Pac is bigging up Bumpy Knuckles, Pudgee and Smiff N Wesson on that song......Plus the other dudes on that track were from NJ so there wasnt a strong impression that NYC was a traget like that.
Also...if u had a life and was actually doing things all that shyt between Pac and Big was secondary to your reality....
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U say that as if Pac didnt do that on AEOM at the end of the song You Cant See Me
"I dedicate this to you punk motherfukkers!This one's for you, BIG baby Cause you bytch-ass nikkas can't see me"
while not saying anything directly about BIG on the whole album.
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You gotta remember, Pac didn't start calling anyone out by name, besides Big, Puffy, Kim, Mobb Deep, and Chino XL, until Makavelli dropped
He was dead by then so it would've been foul for anybody to respond to that
Kim responded on the OG version of Big Momma Thang
and of course the Mobb responded with Drop a Gem on Em
Neither one of them said his name but they didn't have to
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U say that as if Pac didnt do that on AEOM at the end of the song You Cant See Me
"I dedicate this to you punk motherfukkers!This one's for you, BIG baby Cause you bytch-ass nikkas can't see me"
while not saying anything directly about BIG on the whole album.
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I'm talking about whole songs and videos where nikkas were taking shots at people to the point they had to tell you 10 years later who the songs were even about.
I'm talking about east coast rappers in general, when did Pac even have any rap/beef or reason to make a diss song til then?
I'm saying that there was a clear difference in approach from east coast rappers in that era when it came time to talk shyt about other rappers where as on the west coast shyt was more direct...right or wrong?
If you say I'm right, then you can chalk that perception of "not responding" to the fact that Pac was bombin on nikkas directly while east coast rappers wanted to rap in code. We coming off the era of shyt like Dre Day and you got people like Jay Z "responding" to Pac with riddles, fukk that.
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This nikka brought up an adlib
I'm talking about whole songs and videos where nikkas were taking shots at people to the point they had to tell you 10 years later who the songs were even about.
direct shots and calling names huh??
You mean like Tim Dogs "fukk Compton" song and video??
I dont remember any slick subliminals on that one.
direct shots and calling names huh??
You mean like Tim Dogs "fukk Compton"??
I dont remember any slick subliminals on that one.
You know what in general means right?
"who you thought kick in the door was for"
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Pac even said it wasn't about New York because he ran with New York niccas..if u was down with bad boys and the niccas taking money from them then it was 
you and making fun of him when he was lock up and then it was you too..all them roaches should died from his 44 
you and making fun of him when he was lock up and then it was you too..all them roaches should died from his 44 
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Maybe an old head can correct me on this since I was only 1 year old when Pac died, but wasn't it Suge(not Pac) that nikkas feared? 