30 yr old+ black folks going back to school phenomenon

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honestly i think it actually makes more sense to go to college in the mid to late 20's as oppose to straight out of high school....most people really do not know what they want to do in life at such a young age....often times undecided/changing majors or in majors just for money and not passion go on to work in their field and hate it...


if there was a better system where high school graduates can enter the work force and get a feel of what they want to do then go to college it would save so many people from debt
 

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Coney Island said:
cmon nikka explain

the convo i had was wit a older counselor we was kickin it for like 2 hours lol

he was putting alot of shyt in perspective but i dont wanna just be typin for no reason

Y'all don't value education. You value the money that you think the education will bring rather than the education itself.​
 

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honestly i think it actually makes more sense to go to college in the mid to late 20's as oppose to straight out of high school....most people really do not know what they want to do in life at such a young age....often times undecided/changing majors or in majors just for money and not passion go on to work in their field and hate it...


if there was a better system where high school graduates can enter the work force and get a feel of what they want to do then go to college it would save so many people from debt



Where do you live... In Oklahoma, HS students can take free vo-tech classes to get a technical trade.... I thought every state had this?
 
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what yall think about this?

im about to register for school in the summer and was kicking it with my advisor about this yesterday
he said its funny how the older generation talks down to the youth about not goin to school but in reality we are the first generation since the 60s to value education so openly
after the 60s nikkas just wanted jobs and thought they would be good
and they kids, my parents age, followed suit
but only now its comin back around and alot of older people finally goin to school

how do yall think this will shape the future job market knowing its alot of new 30+ degree holders as well as young ones?

related to the McDonalds threads cuz i garauntee its OLDER people striking not just blacks either

You also have to consider how the work force was different for those living in the 60's. They were a lot of industrial jobs back then. Now everything is shipped from China or India.

The jobs that they were working are mostly overseas now. America has primarily a service providing work force not an industrial workforce that the 60's had.

Not to mention inflation and increased cost of living. A degree is a pre-requisite and it is still sometimes not enough.
 

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Where do you live... In Oklahoma, HS students can take free vo-tech classes to get a technical trade.... I thought every state had this?

well vo-tech is more alternative jobs from the typical office gig....there are no programs for non-labor/manual jobs aside from an internship here and there...


im talking if you want to be an engineer/computer tech/public relations officer/copywriter/project manager......cause say if you go to college for public relations then graduate then get a job and find out you hate it now what? ur paying debt for something for nothing....but if you got a PR stint for a couple months maybe senior year in high school or right after and find out you hate it you would avoid that major
 

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Y'all don't value education. You value the money that you think the education will bring rather than the education itself.​

completely agree but can you blame us tho?

back then folks valued education in the 60s
but i think we value the "pursuit" of education even more

i agree our generation uses college for what it is....a hustle

but is that a bad thing?

Where do you live... In Oklahoma, HS students can take free vo-tech classes to get a technical trade.... I thought every state had this?

i went to votech for 3 years and it kept me from doin waaay worse shyt then would have been tempted to do had i been in school all day

i figured every state had this too
 

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You also have to consider how the work force was different for those living in the 60's. They were a lot of industrial jobs back then. Now everything is shipped from China or India.

The jobs that they were working are mostly overseas now. America has primarily a service providing work force not an industrial workforce that the 60's had.

Not to mention inflation and increased cost of living. A degree is a per-requisite and it is still sometimes not enough.

i see the biggest examples of this coming from Detroit

our parents and our parents parents generation did not value going to school imo
 

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well vo-tech is more alternative jobs from the typical office gig....there are no programs for non-labor/manual jobs aside from an internship here and there...


im talking if you want to be an engineer/computer tech/public relations officer/copywriter/project manager......cause say if you go to college for public relations then graduate then get a job and find out you hate it now what? ur paying debt for something for nothing....but if you got a PR stint for a couple months maybe senior year in high school or right after and find out you hate it you would avoid that major


I see what you're saying... There's too much money invested in the system we have right now for anyone to change it. Everything is just about monopolized. If the small business sector was strong, these business owners could utilize these students.
 

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Blue collar jobs that you could get straight out of high school used to be able to hold a family down. The workforce today is still reeling from the aftermath of inflation and outsourcing. Wages haven't risen with the cost of living so people are in a way forced to seek increase their skillset through trade school or higher education.
 

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PEOPLE DON'T VALUE EDUCATION. PEOPLE NEED IT TO GET JOBS THESE DAYS. WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE EDUCATION WILL ONLY TAKE YOU SO FAR THE TREND WILL BACK OFF A BIT.
 

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well vo-tech is more alternative jobs from the typical office gig....there are no programs for non-labor/manual jobs aside from an internship here and there...


im talking if you want to be an engineer/computer tech/public relations officer/copywriter/project manager......cause say if you go to college for public relations then graduate then get a job and find out you hate it now what? ur paying debt for something for nothing....but if you got a PR stint for a couple months maybe senior year in high school or right after and find out you hate it you would avoid that major

i agree and depending on the program they do come to schools and recruit

i was in this GM car design workshop in votech for like 3 weeks out the semester

the prob was inner city kids had to compete with nikkas from China,Japan, and other students from more prepared programs and were basically a pipeline directly to GM already

me and my bro placed 1-2 out our class but when we got to the chosen ones it wasnt even close. them kids had been prepared by their schools for years to compete.

not enough push from the students nor the parents as well as the employers for better funding and technology as far as inner cities
 

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Coney Island said:
i agree our generation uses college for what it is....a hustle

but is that a bad thing?

It is a bad thing because most of you hustle backwards. You're not learning how to think, but how to take orders and regurgitate information.....things you should have learned in Elementary school.​
 
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