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Let me stop you right there. Playing the ‘My hands won’t touch anything from oppression :obama:‘ game is tired and juvenile. We can’t win that battle. Ever. Like just kill that whole angle



Nah I’m gon stop you there too. Degrees that matter says who? The same way you couldn’t predict trump you can’t predict what sectors where peope will get phased out. See coding



1- You don’t build wealth thru ANY job if you wanna grt technical. That’s thru real estate and investing. So now you’re just rambling

2- ‘you do it thru getting a job’…..oh, but just not a govt job? Like what is your point right now?

3- In contracting I’ve worked with all walks of life, far more whites and other folk than black. Talkin bout try ‘build themself up’. Again you have no clue what’s you’re talking about.

I know your type. You don’t like office/corporate work in general bc it’s foreign to you, so you shyt on it as a whole. That’s why brehs are becoming extinct in these spaces. At the end of the day get paid but do understand mfers will glamorize owning a food truck or having vending machines but clown a ‘sellout’ govt job making twice as much
so your point is its good black people are over represented in government jobs?

we shouldnt be focused on growing in the private sector?
No other ethnic group or race has raised themselves up that way but you think itll work for us?

what exactly are you arguing?
 

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so your point is its good black people are over represented in government jobs?

we shouldnt be focused on growing in the private sector?
No other ethnic group or race has raised themselves up that way but you think itll work for us?

what exactly are you arguing?

What are YOU arguing?!

Perhaps the flaw in your thinking —-since this is the 2nd time you’ve mentioned it—-is the idea of ‘raising ourself up’ thru jobs. Raising up an entire race/ethnic group is about more than ‘jobs’. It’s about financial literacy and decision making. So your disdain and attack on govt jobs makes no sense
 
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I believe it. Anecdotally, at my company, I personally know 5 Black woman who have all been let go in the last 5 months.

These are ex-MBB, ex-Google type folks with $180k - $400k TC type roles. None of them were in DEI roles.

On top of that, one Black VP was also unceremoniously let go as well, and he had to have like a $5M TC job. A few of the above women rolled up into him. And he was a real breh, not a c00n like a lot of them that make it that high.

When a Black higher up like that is let go, it’s very destabilizing for the other brothas and sistas at the company as often times that higher up act as an advocate/sponsor/mentor in a way that the “others” could never replicate, even if they wanted to.

The worst part is the job market has fundamentally changed in a way that’s not really reported. New headcount is shrinking, so the opportunities to find equivalent roles is just not there anymore.
 

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This is seriously one of the dumbest things I have ever read on here. This is the kind of pseudo-revolutionary garbage that only sounds deep to stupid people. Martin Luther King didn't "damage" the Black community -- white supremacists institutions did. What we're seeing now isn't proof he failed; it's proof that the system never gave up trying to claw back power.

You are always on here with these awful arguments that excuse these racist systems, from your claim that systemic police racism being a myth*, and now this. The problem wasn't integration, it was that the system never stopped waging war on Black people. That's not King's fault. That's America's ongoing commitment to white domination, and people like *you*, who are too busy blaming trans folks and immigrants instead of the actual architects of oppression, are helping that domination stay alive.

And don't bring up Malcolm like he'd cosign your ignorance.

*https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism.785524/

Lol look at your comeback, you saying MLK didn’t fail it was the white people who failed 😂😂😂..so u saying cacs gne cac right but MLK and the liberals thought it’s all about love and the arc of history bends towards justice lol…its 2025 and this the most racist America has been in 20 years… he failed by thinking we can integrate into the white man society, the white man was never going to give up that power so we can truly integrate it was all a temporary measure. They integrated us into a set hierarchy, but soon as that was threatened (due to demographic shifts in the U.S.) white people said hell nawl, they agreed to let us integrate as long as we are under them. So yea MLK was mislead..during integration we left the black systems for the white systems, yea the black systems wasn’t the best, but atleast it was ours, now we realizing we had a land lease agreement in the US and now it’s running out and now the white who own this shyt is changing the terms..

Black Americans built America, we the chosen people, we was beginning to thrive and I believe we would have thrived better if we would have integrated waaaay later. All the so called sports that cacs loved we dominate and can dominate…the food, the music scene it’s all us..kind of like how Jews dominated the movie industry , we could have dominated and made them deal with us on certain terms in certain industries. Instead we didn’t bring shyt, they absorbed us in and we didn’t didn’t own shyt. American culture is black American culture for the most part, even the things u might think is white came from black people. So you saying we couldn’t have been successful on our own when our fingerprints are all over American culture some we know about some we don’t and will never know about. There is no America without ADOS honestly..if we could have negotiated as equals instead of asking for handouts then the trajectory of the black race would have probably been better. Who knows but they would have had to come to us for sports, music, fashion, and what’s cool. Not to mention the academic progress we made in America as well.

Long story short the problem was thinking white people was ever gne split the pie evenly, soon as shyt started going bad for them and we seeing real black progress they trying to reverse it..it’s because when we negotiated at first ,we came with our hand out..we could have built ourselves up to be independent. Then negotiated from a more even position. We could hash gotten ownership instead of being employed.

And for that post I was trying to make a point ..I actually said this “To be fair I think there is systemic racism in all of America...but the chances of you getting killed by a police is slim to none.”
I just felt like protesting police violence is crazy when I know man nikka who been shot by the police..we got bigger fish to fry. Then it’s funny 5 years later we see that white liberals was in charge and the whole movement wasn’t even pro black male..and where are the white liberals now, the system doing irreversible damage to the black community and they haven’t planned or go-opted a protest yet. When shyt really hit the fan where are they? Where is BLM when HBCUs getting money tools and AA is going away and they are basically allowimg discrimination again. Where are the white liberal les movements now? Yea it’s easy to point to police brutality, but this shyt here affecting all blacks and there isn’t a peep.
 

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What are YOU arguing?!

Perhaps the flaw in your thinking —-since this is the 2nd time you’ve mentioned it—-is the idea of ‘raising ourself up’ thru jobs. Raising up an entire race/ethnic group is about more than ‘jobs’. It’s about financial literacy and decision making. So your disdain and attack on govt jobs makes no sense
my original post said black people need to be diverse in the industries were in.

somehow you took offense in that.
 

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I don’t got a single problem with DEI and I work in tech. I got two degrees (CS/EE) so I don’t care much about hearing the “sKiLls” argument. I’m probably one of the most STEM people on here.

shyt is wack that they removed it and this is basically targeting. It’s nothing but people being selfish.

Truth is those middle, non-technical roles have plenty of value. It’s a shame so many people see things at two extremes. Almost makes me think a lot of folks don’t work at big companies or any place professional.
 

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I don’t got a single problem with DEI honestly and I work in tech and got two degrees (CS/EE) so I don’t care much about the “sKiLls” argument. I’m probably one of the most STEM people on here.

shyt is wack they removed it and this is why virus targeting. It’s nothing but people being selfish.

Truth is those middle, non-technical roles have plenty of value. It’s a shame so many people see things at two extremes. Almost makes me think a lot of folks don’t work at big companies or any place professional.
They don’t you can tell when they keep acting like DEI means affirmative action and not unbiased hiring. The two things are very different.
 

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The job market is hard as hell right now. If you have something, please hold onto it until you have secured something else. Don’t go out there without a parachute on.
Aint nobody black willingly going on this job market that's a professional.
 

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Im not heavy into the manosphere content but If it were black men losing these jobs, the empathy wouldn't be there from many BW. They would kick us while we were down and blame us for our position while ignoring this racist system typically targets us. Don't gaslight like this wouldn't be the case, because they've been doing just that for 40+ years. We constantly heard about how they're always doing better than us(even though we make more money) and how they need to get with men on their level (aka WM or other non-black men). I feel for the good sistas affected but the ones that were OPPin against us can kick rocks, they were warned that they were being used against us but they doubled down...so here we are.
Don't worry, we losing these jobs and yes, they would cheer or do a whataboutism like BM should marry all BW and this wouldn't be happening which is idiotic as many of us are married to BW but it doesn't matter, they just dont like us.

This is crushing professionals more than anything else. Especially Black professionals
 
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