39 years ago today (August 11, 1973)...
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Awesome thread, any info on the specifics of the origins of the mc'ing aspect (rapping, specifically)? I could look it up myself but a lot of knowledgeable heads who probably know more than any google search.
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Threads like this should be stickied and STAY stickied...and I appreciate the knowledge that SKJ is droppin in this thread...
yeah...Hollywood has a right to be somewhat bitter over the fact that his contributions have largely been ignored by the media and so-called hip hop purisits...but all the old school pionners incuding cats like Kurtis Blow acknowledge Hollywood's value
the problem was the fact that the so-called hip hop purists along with cats like KRS ONE didn't fukk with the downtown "jam" scene, it was scene as kinda bourgeise , and the feelings were mutual the downtown crowd looked at the Uptown kids as a bunch of broke ass uncivlized partygoers....
so it was a "class" thing as well..while Herc was charging 25 cents to enter his "basement parties"....cats like Hollywood , Eddie Cheeba and Pete Jones was getting 500 to a thousand dollars a gig to play at clubs like Smalls Paradise and 371 where u had to "dress to impress"...even though they basically played the same type of music which were basically james brown selections along with other funk proto-disco type records.....
in fact Eddie Cheeba commented on the difference between the two movements (uptown, downtown) in this interview with Davy D entitled the "DISCO SIDE OF HIP HOP":
DJ Eddie Cheeba & DJ Hollywood-The Disco Side of Hip Hop « Davey D's Hip Hop Corner-(The Blog)
“Kool Herc and them played in the park. We were blessed to be able to play in clubs,” Eddie says to me. “If you think about it anybody could play in a park; little kids were in the park. There was no money playing in parks. Either the cops was coming to tell you to turn it down or they were gonna unplug you from the light pole or there was gonna be a shootout or something. I played in clubs where people drank champagne and came to have fun. Besides, the park was dangerous”, Eddie says to me while looking from side to side. “You got five niccas over there drinkin’ talkin’ ’bout phukking’ you up. Would you wanna be there?"
so it is quite obvious that HIP HOP has it's orgin in not only the parks but the CLUBS as well...........so all the talk of hip hop being such a hardcore street movement serves as only a half truth....it's also a "dance culture" built on aesthetics as well.....so in this case "BALLING" and "STUNTING" is a fundemental part of hip hop also...
also keep in mind that the video for SUGAR HILL GANG's "RAPPER DELIGHT" was shot in a DISCO!!!
So basically the HIP HOP PURISTS have our history all twisted up with this false romantic ideal of hip hop being this hardcore conscious street movement......
which is so far from the truth
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yeah...Hollywood has a right to be somewhat bitter over the fact that his contributions have largely been ignored by the media and so-called hip hop purisits...but all the old school pionners incuding cats like Kurtis Blow acknowledge Hollywood's value
the problem was the fact that the so-called hip hop purists along with cats like KRS ONE didn't fukk with the downtown "jam" scene, it was scene as kinda bourgeise , and the feelings were mutual the downtown crowd looked at the Uptown kids as a bunch of broke ass uncivlized partygoers....
so it was a "class" thing as well..while Herc was charging 25 cents to enter his "basement parties"....cats like Hollywood , Eddie Cheeba and Pete Jones was getting 500 to a thousand dollars a gig to play at clubs like Smalls Paradise and 371 where u had to "dress to impress"...even though they basically played the same type of music which were basically james brown selections along with other funk proto-disco type records.....
in fact Eddie Cheeba commented on the difference between the two movements (uptown, downtown) in this interview with Davy D entitled the "DISCO SIDE OF HIP HOP":
DJ Eddie Cheeba & DJ Hollywood-The Disco Side of Hip Hop « Davey D's Hip Hop Corner-(The Blog)
Kool Herc and them played in the park. We were blessed to be able to play in clubs, Eddie says to me. If you think about it anybody could play in a park; little kids were in the park. There was no money playing in parks. Either the cops was coming to tell you to turn it down or they were gonna unplug you from the light pole or there was gonna be a shootout or something. I played in clubs where people drank champagne and came to have fun. Besides, the park was dangerous, Eddie says to me while looking from side to side. You got five niccas over there drinkin talkin bout phukking you up. Would you wanna be there?"
so it is quite obvious that HIP HOP has it's orgin in not only the parks but the CLUBS as well...........so all the talk of hip hop being such a hardcore street movement serves as only a half truth....it's also a "dance culture" built on aesthetics as well.....so in this case "BALLING" and "STUNTING" is a fundemental part of hip hop also...
also keep in mind that the video for SUGAR HILL GANG's "RAPPER DELIGHT" was shot in a DISCO!!! Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's Delight (Video) - YouTube
So basically the HIP HOP PURISTS have our history all twisted up with this false romantic ideal of hip hop being this hardcore conscious street movement......
which is so far from the truth
Dropping many a gem in here. Thanks.
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g-WmcVVpi4"]The Golden Gate Quartet - Preacher & The Bear (ROOTS OF RAP) - YouTube[/ame]
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Here's some classic jam parties from the late 70's/early 80's
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