5 Ways Integration Underdeveloped Black America
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Yapdatfool
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So integration underdeveloped blacks in America... ok.
Give me 5 ways how segregation (or non-integration) will help develop black America today, not in the past but today and in the future.
Give me 5 ways how segregation (or non-integration) will help develop black America today, not in the past but today and in the future.
This would obviously be speculation, but I'll try:
1. Concentrates Black wealth in the Black community
2. Allows us to control our own state, and local laws (if we had our own state)
3. Allows us to police our own communities
4. Over time diminishes the specter of racism from every negative aspect of life
5. Allows us to control our own children's education
PortCityProphet
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Eh except for 3 and 5 you can't fault integration for any of that. 1. Having the option to shop where ever you want doesn't mean you have to.
2. The hell integration got to do with children out of wedlock?
4. Who with common sense thinks we live in a colorblind society? The 1st word people use to describe others is a color.
2. The hell integration got to do with children out of wedlock?
4. Who with common sense thinks we live in a colorblind society? The 1st word people use to describe others is a color.
This dumb ass shyt here 
reasonable points made in that video.
all those are choices that can be made in an integrated society (except the "our own state" bit because we didn't have that in the jim crow south either). you're basically saying that forcing black people to live together is the only way that can happen and that as soon as you give black people choice they make the wrong one. in majority black cities across america, the police departments are also shytty. american education is currently under local control and that's why localities with higher property tax income have better schools.
I was answering the question. I do think somethings are done more effectively if we're completely segregated though. Like concentrating wealth in the Black community, for instance. If you have no choice to spend your dollar elsewhere, it will inevitably/by necessity end up in Black hands. And when that Black recipient spends it, it'll be in another Black hand. That may not make segregation worth it to you but if concentrating wealth were a goal, that would be pretty effective.
No. Big liberal policies like the great society ruined the black community
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
A bunch of correlation =/= causation shyt.
This is bullshyt. People that believe integration somehow hurt black america believes that access to a plethora of black owned institutions existed equally throughout all black enclaves nationwide. If you're in Detroit and its 1950 and your black district was bulldozed over to build the first freeway system, you're supposed to pack up and move to Atlanta? Montgomery Alabama?
1. Black Wealth Stagnated or Declined: Black wealth may be slightly higher now with millionaire celebrities and a few people with hefty retirement accounts or pensions. Blacks have always had their land and homes stolen from them and property devalued so nothing new there. Black businesses were never a source of wealth. Most were/are sole proprietorships or employed a handful of people. The black elite has always consisted of the middle-income; doctors, lawyers, educators, preachers not titans of industry.
2. Black Family Structure Collapsed: This is true but integration (black women being able to financially support themselves?) and miscegenation was only a part of it. (This video seems to confuse integration with affirmative action.) Incarceration, as mentioned, plus welfare, the sexual revolution, and no-fault divorce caused the collapse of the black family. In 1965 only 8% of childbirths were out of wedlock. Wrong, that figure is for the US as a whole. In 1965 the out of wedlock birthrate for blacks was 25%; this is well documented in Daniel Patrick Moynihan's 1965 report The Negro Family: The Case For National Action. Even during the decades that blacks (men and women) had a higher marriage rate than whites, the black out of wedlock birth rate was several times higher than whites.
3. The Unemployment Rate of Black Men Quadrupled: I can't speak for just men, but the unemployment rate for blacks has been double that of whites since records have been kept. Immigration and the addition of multiple "minority" groups has help to keep black unemployment high. Employers are now using employment agencies to discriminate and hire mostly whites, Hispanics, or foreign Asians depending on the business. I listened to an NPR Reveal radio broadcast that reported that the LG plant near Huntsville, AL has a workforce that is 75% Hispanic (mostly temps) but the Huntsville area is only 5% Hispanic.
4. Myth of a colorblind society was promoted: Not enough information given.
5. Black community become dependent: The black population is no more or less dependent than before. Now only 2% of all working black people work for another black person. What was it during segregation, 2%? Or is the video counting the large number of black farmers during segregation as employers. The majority of black students receive miseducation through inadequate schooling. During segregation many blacks didn't receive much of any schooling because they dropped out at a much higher rate than now. Carter G. Woodson's The Mis-education Of The Negro was published in 1933, so nothing new there.
2. Black Family Structure Collapsed: This is true but integration (black women being able to financially support themselves?) and miscegenation was only a part of it. (This video seems to confuse integration with affirmative action.) Incarceration, as mentioned, plus welfare, the sexual revolution, and no-fault divorce caused the collapse of the black family. In 1965 only 8% of childbirths were out of wedlock. Wrong, that figure is for the US as a whole. In 1965 the out of wedlock birthrate for blacks was 25%; this is well documented in Daniel Patrick Moynihan's 1965 report The Negro Family: The Case For National Action. Even during the decades that blacks (men and women) had a higher marriage rate than whites, the black out of wedlock birth rate was several times higher than whites.
3. The Unemployment Rate of Black Men Quadrupled: I can't speak for just men, but the unemployment rate for blacks has been double that of whites since records have been kept. Immigration and the addition of multiple "minority" groups has help to keep black unemployment high. Employers are now using employment agencies to discriminate and hire mostly whites, Hispanics, or foreign Asians depending on the business. I listened to an NPR Reveal radio broadcast that reported that the LG plant near Huntsville, AL has a workforce that is 75% Hispanic (mostly temps) but the Huntsville area is only 5% Hispanic.
4. Myth of a colorblind society was promoted: Not enough information given.
5. Black community become dependent: The black population is no more or less dependent than before. Now only 2% of all working black people work for another black person. What was it during segregation, 2%? Or is the video counting the large number of black farmers during segregation as employers. The majority of black students receive miseducation through inadequate schooling. During segregation many blacks didn't receive much of any schooling because they dropped out at a much higher rate than now. Carter G. Woodson's The Mis-education Of The Negro was published in 1933, so nothing new there.
Alot of reductionism in that video...the problem isnt specifically segregation or integration its Government enforced Integration or Government enforced segregationthings like Jim crow laws and affirmative action are good example of this...and they caused alot of social distortions...plus things like entitlements and public housing policies did more to destroy wealth,home ownership and family structure..
The war on poverty and the war on drugs too ( As a general rule anything the govt goes to war with increases exponentially)
the premise that all that can be blamed on (Government enforced) integration is flawed IMO