Devil Plisken…CMS
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No you’re wrong. That’s not the format those guys turned it into and frankly kid capri came before if you’d like to
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No you’re wrong. That’s not the format those guys turned it into and frankly kid capri came before if you’d like to
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It's a lot of Wayne disrespect in this thread
Personally banged the Sqad tapes Vol. 1 to 3 more than any Dipset or G-Unit tape
Personally banged the Sqad tapes Vol. 1 to 3 more than any Dipset or G-Unit tape
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Kid Kapri started making mixtapes before Clue.
Clue made it a movement.
Go over the resume I posted.
I'd they want to to make it a competition between G Unit and Dipset, cool. Have their pissing contest.
Clue broke records with and without permission on both of Biggie's albums before they came (huge GLOBAL records).
Clue broke records and built buzzes for X and Jay. X became the biggest thing on the planet. Clue was with Jay through Jay's whole Rocafella run.
Clue redefined the importance of the mixtape and set the standard for means of commercial sucess.
And please define your use of "technical."
I am legit curious.
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Devil Plisken…CMS
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KC was on the tape grind no differently than Ron G before Clue. Clue’s thing differed in ways from them and the G-Unit Dipset model definitely wasn’t the same so it makes no sense mentioning them with clue
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If by "technical" you meant semantics okay.
Ron G and Kid Capri were pioneers and were sucessful DJs actually for a lot of different reasons. Let's put them here.
What Clue did took it to an entirely, unprecedented level and turned the mixtape into a vehicle for mainstream sucess.
Lets just use Biggie alone on this for sake of time. All thats needed. Clue broke Juicy and One More Chance before the official release and it blew up. Biggie was pissed and went on Hpt97 threatening Clue.
Bad Boy had their entire street team looking for Clue. Clue said the only reason it didn't go south for him is because no one knew what he looked like.
Fat Joe said when Biggie and Clue were at an event. Biggie grabbed a gun and went looking for Clue for putting put One More Chance out before the official release.
Eventually, Diddy called Steve Stoute and they squashed it. After the sucess of Ready to Die, Bad Boy saw the street value of what Clue does as a mixtape DJ. Went from at one point wanting to kill Clue to tapping him to be the official DJ for Bad Boy's official mixtape.
Clue got to chose two records off of not yet released Life After Death. The most anticipated Rap Album off 1997. He broke Hypnotize and fukking Mo Money Mo Problems.
I'm only going into this far because this is interesting Hip Hop history and the stuff of legends. Clue's role and career in Hip Hop is under valued. He eclipsed everything Capri and Ron G. Dont mistake that for disrespect, I value them all.
So let's put Clue above them.
To the right let's go with the idea that two groups made their so called "movements" a staple. I didn't like when they used the term "movements." I think it's an indulgent term to describe a fad.
Did G Unit have longevity? Did Dipset? Or did they fracture and when it was clearly style over substance people moved on?
So yeah if they want to have a pissing contest on who had the bigger fad then go ahead
We'll put them over in the oranges category and I'll leave Kapri, Ron, and Clue over as the apples.
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No. Wayne mixtapes was a blip my boi. No one really gave a shyt about them shyts like that.
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And that’s very rare. Wasn’t the norm at all for 02-03. It’s not about disrespect it’s just that nikkas stay tryna give that nikka extra credit for just being there. G Unit and Dipset literally have classic songs and freestyles that came from them tapes. Shout out to D Block as well.It's a lot of Wayne disrespect in this thread
Personally banged the Sqad tapes Vol. 1 to 3 more than any Dipset or G-Unit tape
most people my age who are fans of this thing called hip-hop can recite entire Wayne 16s. His DNA is in all of the "new" school.
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I can't let you sit up here and rewrite history, folks were waiting on those Sqad tapes like a fiend waiting on his next hit.
Wayne was bubbling.
In 2002, Nelly had the game on lock, Jay-z was doing his thing down south. Luda, Em. Dipset. etc.
Baby/Birdman was a big dawg in the game, yes that's what I said, Baby was being pushed heavy. He was appearing on features, and he dropped his own solo album.
In 2002, The Big Tymers was the biggest act on the label, "Still Fly" was everywhere and "Oh Yeah" was everywhere which put Baby in the spotlight as that representative for CMR. He was featured on everything, he had a feature with Ginuwine, his lead single for his album, he was on an R.Kelly song. Baby put himself as a big dog in the game from off the Big Tymers momentum from that Hood Rich album.
In 2003, Juvenile came back to CMR, which overshadowed Wayne's underground mini success with The Drought Mixtapes. Juvie's "In my Life" single was everywhere and then "Slow Motion" came and put a choke hold on the game.
Cash Money had the juice once again.
Wayne went back into the lab and made 10,000 bars, this when he was last seen/heard writing down lyrics. This tape was when he really caught the wave of folks, then them Squad mixtapes took the fukk off. Those mixtapes of his were the hottest thing on the streets. The "streets" were bumping nothing but Wayne during the early part of 2004, especially that summer of 2004. Main stream had went "Pop" with Luda, Nelly, Em and other "soft" rappers. 50 Cent brought back gangsta rap, outside of 50, everything had become "pop" and soft.
Even Master P was making "bounce music" "choppa style" Rock the Boat. Alot of "crunk music" was being pushed
Kanye came out and he was "pop" in a sense.
Wayne was still on his "gangsta" music. with lyrical content added on top of it.
Dipset albums were in rotation down here too, but Wayne was on like a 12-0 run with them mixtapes, he was shytting on everybody's songs, it was at that point Wayne was making you listen to his version of the song instead of the actual artist's version.
When the Carter 1 dropped in that 2004 summer, that was a rap.
I remember Keayna Martin who was on the New Jersey Nets Basketball team at the time was on BET rap city plugging that Carter 1 album, I think Jay-Z had dropped that month or week, "Encore" along with some more other heavy hitters, maybe Luda, some more people, but K.Mart looked in the camera and said, The Carter 1 was the best album that's out on the streets. That's what he has in his rotation, he got two copy, one for the house and another for the whip. lol
Wayne came out with another mixtape after the Carter 1, Another series, I can't remember that name of that series and series set him up for that Carter 2 release. That mixtape series is the one where he's destroying Mike Jones song and T.I. Top Back song.
Baby/Birdman was a big dawg in the game, yes that's what I said, Baby was being pushed heavy. He was appearing on features, and he dropped his own solo album.
In 2002, The Big Tymers was the biggest act on the label, "Still Fly" was everywhere and "Oh Yeah" was everywhere which put Baby in the spotlight as that representative for CMR. He was featured on everything, he had a feature with Ginuwine, his lead single for his album, he was on an R.Kelly song. Baby put himself as a big dog in the game from off the Big Tymers momentum from that Hood Rich album.
In 2003, Juvenile came back to CMR, which overshadowed Wayne's underground mini success with The Drought Mixtapes. Juvie's "In my Life" single was everywhere and then "Slow Motion" came and put a choke hold on the game.
Cash Money had the juice once again.
Wayne went back into the lab and made 10,000 bars, this when he was last seen/heard writing down lyrics. This tape was when he really caught the wave of folks, then them Squad mixtapes took the fukk off. Those mixtapes of his were the hottest thing on the streets. The "streets" were bumping nothing but Wayne during the early part of 2004, especially that summer of 2004. Main stream had went "Pop" with Luda, Nelly, Em and other "soft" rappers. 50 Cent brought back gangsta rap, outside of 50, everything had become "pop" and soft.
Even Master P was making "bounce music" "choppa style" Rock the Boat. Alot of "crunk music" was being pushed
Kanye came out and he was "pop" in a sense.
Wayne was still on his "gangsta" music. with lyrical content added on top of it.
Dipset albums were in rotation down here too, but Wayne was on like a 12-0 run with them mixtapes, he was shytting on everybody's songs, it was at that point Wayne was making you listen to his version of the song instead of the actual artist's version.
When the Carter 1 dropped in that 2004 summer, that was a rap.
I remember Keayna Martin who was on the New Jersey Nets Basketball team at the time was on BET rap city plugging that Carter 1 album, I think Jay-Z had dropped that month or week, "Encore" along with some more other heavy hitters, maybe Luda, some more people, but K.Mart looked in the camera and said, The Carter 1 was the best album that's out on the streets. That's what he has in his rotation, he got two copy, one for the house and another for the whip. lol
Wayne came out with another mixtape after the Carter 1, Another series, I can't remember that name of that series and series set him up for that Carter 2 release. That mixtape series is the one where he's destroying Mike Jones song and T.I. Top Back song.
You not disagreeing with me. When have you ever described lil Wayne as ‘bubbling’. He was a star in his hot boy days, and a star after Go DJ. In between, was the SQAD era.
So yea, he was ‘bubbling’. Like I said he was more underground
Dipset first mixtape was out before Come Hone With Me was released in stores, way before G Unit mixtapes later that year and even Guess Who’s Back
Kiss had a mixtape right before his album dropped in 01
J Hood even had a mixtape out in spring 02 before the G Unit mixtapes in late 02
Kiss had a mixtape right before his album dropped in 01
J Hood even had a mixtape out in spring 02 before the G Unit mixtapes in late 02
50 had a run of his own tapes since 98
