52 Hand Blocks - let's talk about it

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I watched Volkanov v Holloway yesterday, i don't watch a lot of MMA. I watch a lot of boxing.

I'm surprised there isn't more elbow guard in MMA. 4 ounce gloves doesn't leave much hand protection, punching elbows in any glove fukks your hand up, take it from me.

Spence uses a high guard, but the MMA should incorporate more of the 52 hands elbow block, it makes so much sense, break the opponents hands easy.
 

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This 52 blocks got some cool ish.

All that rushing shyt is great and probably work well in a legit scrap in the street or jail where you gotta get busy quickly and dead it.

Still not sold on the shyt at range, or against someone who can control range and bop at will. In a lot of the examples they got no jab, core fundamentals or simple balance over the feet.
 

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I watched Volkanov v Holloway yesterday, i don't watch a lot of MMA. I watch a lot of boxing.

I'm surprised there isn't more elbow guard in MMA. 4 ounce gloves doesn't leave much hand protection, punching elbows in any glove fukks your hand up, take it from me.

Spence uses a high guard, but the MMA should incorporate more of the 52 hands elbow block, it makes so much sense, break the opponents hands easy.

This 52 blocks got some cool ish.

All that rushing shyt is great and probably work well in a legit scrap in the street or jail where you gotta get busy quickly and dead it.

Still not sold on the shyt at range, or against someone who can control range and bop at will. In a lot of the examples they got no jab, core fundamentals or simple balance over the feet.
The issue is with the block system is about timing for one. If I feint my jab and use dirty boxing to tap that elbow, I'm on your ass closing distance. It's cool for CQC but useless against takedowns and kicks. For someone like me that knows how to use reach and dictate distance is a no go. Allot of the newer 52 teachers are implementing BJJ now because of people just rushing in and taking them down. Like I said I'm the other thread, muay, catch wrestling, dirty boxing, even kick boxing gives that style hell. All these other styles teach level change and use of all body parts as a weapon
 

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The issue is with the block system is about timing for one. If I feint my jab and use dirty boxing to tap that elbow, I'm on your ass closing distance. It's cool for CQC but useless against takedowns and kicks. For someone like me that knows how to use reach and dictate distance is a no go. Allot of the newer 52 teachers are implementing BJJ now because of people just rushing in and taking them down. Like I said I'm the other thread, muay, catch wrestling, dirty boxing, even kick boxing gives that style hell. All these other styles teach level change and use of all body parts as a weapon
I understand the takedown aspect being an issue re distance etc.

My point is that the lighter the gloves, the harder the elbow becomes when you hit someone using it in their guard. Break hands and wrists of the opponent with just a more pointed, high guard. I'm surprised the elbow is not used as a hand breaking point more in MMA. It's ripe for it.
 

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I understand the takedown aspect being an issue re distance etc.

My point is that the lighter the gloves, the harder the elbow becomes when you hit someone using it in their guard. Break hands and wrists of the opponent with just a more pointed, high guard. I'm surprised the elbow is not used as a hand breaking point more in MMA. It's ripe for it.
It's not taught
I've learned it as spikey fruit defense
 

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Skipping water is an old Muay Thai technique.
Again 52 blocks works wonders against untrained fighters but it's good for people leaking to defend themselves. I salute them brothers
 

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I feel like any style will work when you have the fundamentals of punch kick and take down defense/countering down.

If you can't dodge punches at the minimum you're finished
 
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I feel like any style will work when you have the fundamentals of punch kick and take down defense/countering down.
52 blocks had to evolve
I've seen/been around OG's of it from working in the prison system, it's come a long way. It was meant for inside a cell, close quarters. You can't operate the same once you get outside
 
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