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Black Voters Are So Loyal That Their Issues Get Ignored


By Farai Chideya

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The issue of race has been at the forefront of much of the 2016 campaign, but recently the war of words and images has been taken to a new level. Hillary Clinton released a video featuring robed Klan members praising Donald Trump, saying he believes what they believe. Her Twitter feed has, since then, been filled with attacks on Trump’s “campaign of prejudice and paranoia.” For his part, Trump said at a Mississippi rally last month that Clinton was a “bigot who sees people of color only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future.”

But leave aside Trump and Clinton for a moment. Their battle is really about a question long raised by candidates, citizens and political scientists: In today’s two-party system, are the political interests of black Americans represented well? Or are black voters “captured” — ignored by one major party and taken for granted by the other?

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The captured group theory was put forward by Princeton political scientist Paul Frymer in a book first published in 1999, “Uneasy Alliances: Race and Party Competition in America.1 He argued that politicians focus their attention on white swing voters, and that the two-party system is structured to push aside the concerns of black voters2 because they consistently and overwhelmingly favor one party.

“We generally think all voters have influence,” Frymer told me. But just as voters in battleground states are more heavily courted during a presidential election, he said, modern politicians have focused their efforts on “moderate, disaffected whites in the middle — whether you call them soccer moms or NASCAR dads.” Bill Clinton, for example, was a master at signalling that he prioritized white voters’ concerns, Frymer said, pointing to Clinton’s “Sister Souljah moment” criticising a black rapper and activist.

But let’s not take just Frymer’s word for it. Are black voters really “captured”? They certainly meet one part of the definition: In recent elections, more than 90 percent of the black vote has gone to the Democratic candidate for president.

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Determining how well black interests are represented — or even what those interests are — is tougher. In his book, Frymer examined which groups campaigns targeted and how well the agenda of the Congressional Black Caucus fared, among other things. A recent study, “50 Years of the Voting Rights Act: The State of Race in Politics,” looked at how often government action (in this case, spending) matched voters’ policy preferences (based on survey data from 1972-2010) and concluded that “black voices are less equal than others when it comes to policy.” Other studies have shown that modern presidential campaigns make direct arguments about remediating racial problems far less than in the 1970s and 1980s.

You can also point to specific examples of Democrats who gained office thanks in part to African-American support but who enacted some policies that arguably hurt black Americans. Bill Clinton’s welfare and 1994 crime bills, for example, had a disproportionately negative effect on black communities. Obama clashed with the Congressional Black Caucus during his first term, though relations warmed during the second.

More generally, a 2015 report called “Political Powerlessness” by Nicholas Stephanopoulos at the University of Chicago Law School found that black support for Congressional legislation actually decreased its chances of passage. As he writes, “As white support increases from 0% to 100%, the likelihood of adoption increases from about 10% to about 60%. As black support rises from 0% to 100%, though, the odds of enactment fall3from roughly 40% to roughly 30%.”

Of course, if black voters are a captured group, that doesn’t mean Trump’s ostensible outreach to the community — which included his first-ever campaign visit to a black church over Labor Day weekend — will be successful. National Urban League CEO Marc Morial, for example, sends out an annual meeting request to the White House and the leadership of the House and Senate. Since 2008, he said, “Republican House leadership has declined every meeting request.”

Or, as Frymer put it in an email:

Democrats are unequivocally better than the Republicans on a whole range of issues that a majority of black Americans care about. This is why they are captured. The Democratic Party, by doing more than nothing, is better than the Republican Party. The vote is always clearly differentiated and yet at the same time, marginalized.

He adds, “There are other groups that vote heavily Democratic — Jewish voters, for instance — that are not ignored by either party. Both parties make strong appeals to Jewish voters with regards to Israel, for instance, without fear of destabilizing their broader coalition.” It is the fear of turning off other constituencies with appeals to black Americans that shifts the playing field.

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But the other part that gets ignored is the economics part, black issues get ignored because black people do not donate money aka buy politicians

So on top of splitting the vote we have to start buying politicians

Also democrats are not better on the issues and welfare reform was a good thing
 

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on a wider scale (state and local) it is true that democrats are better at advancing issues for blacks. in ga for instance the gop led efforts that limited or eliminated public transportation or decreased public school funding for majority black areas. who took up the cause to help correct those issues and had success...democrats.

referring to blacks as a "captured" demographic is a condescending way to ignore that republicans would prefer state rights and every person for themselves (bootstraps) approach. like that would eliminate racial and class disparity. that's just not true.

i'm not saying all democrats are great and the party doesn't take the black vote for granted. in many cases they do and we do need to hold whoever wants our votes and our money to a higher standard. what i am saying is that when it comes to political representation and action in our communities democrats have done and continue to do more for us than republicans. facts.
 

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i wonder how i should read this graph. what happened in 1964? so you're saying that racist language drives people to vote against the purveyors of that racist behavior? that's some interesting shyt. look i wish we could go back to the days of both parties competing for all votes. and there being a significant non-c00n black presence in the republican party and democrats appealing to working class whites with coded and actual racist language but those days have gone. it's clear from that graph that the republican party had a strategy that didn't include blacks. so now it's the fault of blacks why it's either vote democrat or stay at home? it has nothing to do with providing us with credible alternatives huh? we're just suppose to suck it up and support the same people courting the not racist alt-right?
 

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on a wider scale (state and local) it is true that democrats are better at advancing issues for blacks. in ga for instance the gop led efforts that limited or eliminated public transportation or decreased public school funding for majority black areas. who took up the cause to help correct those issues and had success...democrats.

referring to blacks as a "captured" demographic is a condescending way to ignore that republicans would prefer state rights and every person for themselves (bootstraps) approach. like that would eliminate racial and class disparity. that's just not true.

i'm not saying all democrats are great and the party doesn't take the black vote for granted. in many cases they do and we do need to hold whoever wants our votes and our money to a higher standard. what i am saying is that when it comes to political representation and action in our communities democrats have done and continue to do more for us than republicans. facts.


your mentality is a dead end, the question shouldnt be who is the least racist or who is gonna help us poor black folk, the question is what do we have to do to dominate both parties, that is the question that will lead to new ideas

your way of thinking is a dead, it will lead nowhere

yes, superficially white liberals show more sympathy for black people, and if that is what you are looking for then you are correct but if you are looking for money, power, domination then voting liberal will only get you so far, we are living in an era where we have seen the limits of voting democratic and the results arent that great, so to advocate that black should continue with the same strategy is just leading black people to a dead end
 

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your mentality is a dead end, the question shouldnt be who is the least racist or who is gonna help us poor black folk, the question is what do we have to do to dominate both parties, that is the question that will lead to new ideas

your way of thinking is a dead, it will lead nowhere

yes, superficially white liberals show more sympathy for black people, and if that is what you are looking for then you are correct but if you are looking for money, power, domination then voting liberal will only get you so far, we are living in an era where we have seen the limits of voting democratic and the results arent that great, so to advocate that black should continue with the same strategy is just leading black people to a dead end
:wow: straight fax
 

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your mentality is a dead end, the question shouldnt be who is the least racist or who is gonna help us poor black folk, the question is what do we have to do to dominate both parties, that is the question that will lead to new ideas

your way of thinking is a dead, it will lead nowhere

yes, superficially white liberals show more sympathy for black people, and if that is what you are looking for then you are correct but if you are looking for money, power, domination then voting liberal will only get you so far, we are living in an era where we have seen the limits of voting democratic and the results arent that great, so to advocate that black should continue with the same strategy is just leading black people to a dead end
let's keep this simple, you're wrong. dems are better on the issues affecting black people than repubs are.

there are more black dem legislators because the repubs aren't interested in addressing issues important to black people in their platform. the republican party is built on maintaining the white status quo and white power structure.

speaking from first hand experience black legislators in my state have done far more to improve quality of life and opportunities for black people. fact. could more be done? absolutely. would black people have even more economic and political power if we were committed to the process and voted in larger numbers consistently? of course.

if you think switching to republicans is the quickest way to get there you're wrong again. they've shown time and time again they will shut us out through voter suppression, gerrymandering, and redistricting.

there is a distinct difference between the two when it comes to black issues. you haven't provided any facts, info, ideas or examples supported by the reality we live in to the contrary.

when it comes to political representation the quickest and most effective way for black people to increase our power is by consistently voting in larger numbers where we already have inroads.
 

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your mentality is a dead end, the question shouldnt be who is the least racist or who is gonna help us poor black folk, the question is what do we have to do to dominate both parties, that is the question that will lead to new ideas

your way of thinking is a dead, it will lead nowhere

yes, superficially white liberals show more sympathy for black people, and if that is what you are looking for then you are correct but if you are looking for money, power, domination then voting liberal will only get you so far, we are living in an era where we have seen the limits of voting democratic and the results arent that great, so to advocate that black should continue with the same strategy is just leading black people to a dead end
So we should team up with klan supporters and segregationist because they have the money? How is that pro-black again?
 

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i wonder how i should read this graph. what happened in 1964? so you're saying that racist language drives people to vote against the purveyors of that racist behavior? that's some interesting shyt. look i wish we could go back to the days of both parties competing for all votes. and there being a significant non-c00n black presence in the republican party and democrats appealing to working class whites with coded and actual racist language but those days have gone. it's clear from that graph that the republican party had a strategy that didn't include blacks. so now it's the fault of blacks why it's either vote democrat or stay at home? it has nothing to do with providing us with credible alternatives huh? we're just suppose to suck it up and support the same people courting the not racist alt-right?

'64 was Goldwater who opposed the Civil Rights Act running against LBJ who explicitly said he was going to keep Kennedy's legacy going.
 
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