538: Black voters are so loyal their issues get ignored

[NERO]

The people running the Republican party dont even give a fukk about the most middle classs and lower white people. fukk would they give a shyt about about our vote.

Down here in Kansas Rep have been raping this state openly and it doesnt benefit anyone but the upper class. But the majority here keep voting for them and then complain about the same shyt again.

And no im not endorsing the dem party

If you took a poll of all americans and asked them all the same question, yes/no, no matter how crazy it was you would get at least 5-10 percent going against the grain. Being lockstep about almost anything is a bad idea. We have zero chips at the negotiating table when we are in love with one party and completely ignore any alternative views. Latinos were DEMANDING immigration reform from Bernie and Hillz at the Univision debate. We are begging for general shyt like police reform and not specifics. We have no chips at the table when we vote D lockstep. Why are we voting for more of the present condition as if things are better now then even 20 years ago? The status quo is not working. We are getting politically pimped and I'm tired of that shyt. There are a few brothers and sisters in the party structure who are benefitting from their cozy relationship with the party elite but the common folks are struggling. At what point do we find the leverage to actually be taken seriously? If we were voting 65/25/10 D/R/other then we could make demands of every interest group that approached us for our support and every candidate that wanted our vote. Right now we are just kept children. We get our school lunch, a football and a pat on the back from the Ds while latinos are getting hall monitor status and teachers aide assignments. They are moving up. We are losing ground. What do you think it going to happen in 20 years when the nation is 30 percent latino 50 percent white 8 percent asian and still only 12 percent black. We are getting left behind man.

 

[VegasCAC]

People really acting like the racist nature of the Republican Party isn't an inherent part of who they are

You really think the party that caters to elites only would win elections without dogwhistling and appealing to religious retards

If 50% of black people switched over to the Republican Party tomorrow they wouldn't change one thing, because the 25-30% of racist white America they would lose by being sane is more valuable demographically

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Another conservative circle jerk by supposedly black and pro-black posters.




So transparent.

Do you really think you can shame people into voting for a party that tries to marginalize them and violate their rights at every turn?

Is it a coincidence that other minorities are on the same fukk the Republicans wave?

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Democrats and the left hustled us good, you can even see it in this thread:
"republicans gon' kill us!! they gon' get us!! we gotsta keep dem out of dat white hauce!!"

mexicans came over here and exposed all that shyt to be false and/or greatly exaggerated...
both parties fighting like bytches on maury over their baby daddy for that latino vote

they took republicans political APATHY toward our situation and turned it into dark and scary racism. and we bought into it.

mexicans could give a damn less if we know their story, history, or their culture.

they just want to work hard and get this $$$$.

we're the opposite. we need everybody to hear our tale, we fight so that everybody knows dr king and other black figures.
we've shown that this is more important to us than anything...so they play on that and it works.

we're fukked. the process has begun...but hey, look at this and take your mind off of all of that:

 

[Booker T Garvey]

If you took a poll of all americans and asked them all the same question, yes/no, no matter how crazy it was you would get at least 5-10 percent going against the grain. Being lockstep about almost anything is a bad idea. We have zero chips at the negotiating table when we are in love with one party and completely ignore any alternative views. Latinos were DEMANDING immigration reform from Bernie and Hillz at the Univision debate. We are begging for general shyt like police reform and not specifics. We have no chips at the table when we vote D lockstep. Why are we voting for more of the present condition as if things are better now then even 20 years ago? The status quo is not working. We are getting politically pimped and I'm tired of that shyt. There are a few brothers and sisters in the party structure who are benefitting from their cozy relationship with the party elite but the common folks are struggling. At what point do we find the leverage to actually be taken seriously? If we were voting 65/25/10 D/R/other then we could make demands of every interest group that approached us for our support and every candidate that wanted our vote. Right now we are just kept children. We get our school lunch, a football and a pat on the back from the Ds while latinos are getting hall monitor status and teachers aide assignments. They are moving up. We are losing ground. What do you think it going to happen in 20 years when the nation is 30 percent latino 50 percent white 8 percent asian and still only 12 percent black. We are getting left behind man.

this is the heart of their hustle. pay the mouth pieces and the figure heads nicely, prop them up, show them that they are in our corner

prime example are Jesse and AL - both millionaires: what's their job? what do they sell? we've all worked harder than those 2 negroes and we don't have a fraction of what's in their bank accounts.

call Ben Carson, Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell TOMS and c00nS all day long, but they've had JOBS/CAREERS before they aligned themselves w/republicans. they don't need the republican party as a source of income.

Jesse and Al can't say this. this is exactly the part of their hustle that's worked. the millions they pay them is pittance compared to the billions they've earned, AND the power they obtain off of our votes.

 

[King Kreole]

People really acting like the racist nature of the Republican Party isn't an inherent part of who they are

You really think the party that caters to elites only would win elections without dogwhistling and appealing to religious retards

If 50% of black people switched over to the Republican Party tomorrow they wouldn't change one thing, because the 25-30% of racist white America they would lose by being sane is more valuable demographically

 

[JahFocus CS]

How does our population barely grow?

Asians about to catch up to us in a few decades

#RepatriationTime

 

[King Kreole]

How does our population barely grow?

Asians about to catch up to us in a few decades

#RepatriationTime

yep. if you think the black community is being ignored now...

 

[TTT]

People really acting like the racist nature of the Republican Party isn't an inherent part of who they are

You really think the party that caters to elites only would win elections without dogwhistling and appealing to religious retards

If 50% of black people switched over to the Republican Party tomorrow they wouldn't change one thing, because the 25-30% of racist white America they would lose by being sane is more valuable demographically

That's why they have adopted the talk radio "borders, culture, language " stuff. They would rather suppress the demographics that vote Democrat than actually try to appeal to them. For Hispanics they will try and curtail immigration from Latin America and target birthright citizenship and for African Americans they will use voter ID laws. They don't even bother to hide it actually, there was a guy in PA who even alluded to how voter ID will let Romney win or close the gap. There was also the North Carolina official who resigned after that interview on the Daily Show talking about how it targets lazy blacks.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

People really acting like the racist nature of the Republican Party isn't an inherent part of who they are

You really think the party that caters to elites only would win elections without dogwhistling and appealing to religious retards

If 50% of black people switched over to the Republican Party tomorrow they wouldn't change one thing, because the 25-30% of racist white America they would lose by being sane is more valuable demographically

THIS.


People act like the Republican Party would start fighting for the Black vote if it got 12% of it. Do you really believe that 12% of 12% of the population is enough to make the Republican Party start actively alienating the anti-Black contingent in its base? Even 10% of 70% is a lot bigger than 12% of 12%. Assuming 10% of White Americans (and therefore ~20% of the Republican Party) are so intolerant of Black people that they would not tolerate their party making substantial overtures to Black America...and that 10% of the White voting population is going to be bigger than anything but a MAJORITY of the Black population.

Do you think the Republicans will ever believe they can capture a majority of the Black population, and will risk all their anti-Black voters to do it?


The only solution, as others have pointed out here, is to refuse to vote for the Democratic Party, or to form a third party. Those are the only two places where the leadership will substantially cater to Black interests...but in the Democratic Party, it will ONLY happen if they really start losing the Black vote, and can't just assume it.

Refuse to vote for the Democrats, yes. But don't think you're going to get anything from the Republicans unless some massive social event changes the entire nature of American politics.

 

[Madvillain]

how this is being turned to basically "vote Republican"

 

[JahFocus CS]

how this is being turned to basically "vote Republican"

Because #SplitTheVote

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Refuse to vote for the Democrats, yes. But don't think you're going to get anything from the Republicans unless some massive social event changes the entire nature of American politics.

republicans just want votes, and in return, they'll give us what we want <<that's how it's SUPPOSE to work

any type of reaction on some "they'll lie!, they ain't gonna do it!, they'll trick us!" is speculative and for lack of better term, emotional.

latinos put their entire foot up Obama's ass and got what they wanted:

hypothetically if the black community gives republicans the votes, and then they fukk us - jump ship!! it's that simple, go back to voting democrat or look at third party.

political parties are not suppose to "care" or "feel" for us...this is a business partnership. We vote for you, give us what we want that helps our community

this boogie man shyt is getting old man. how is a whole race of people afraid of a political party?

 

[King Kreole]

THIS.


People act like the Republican Party would start fighting for the Black vote if it got 12% of it. Do you really believe that 12% of 12% of the population is enough to make the Republican Party start actively alienating the anti-Black contingent in its base? Even 10% of 70% is a lot bigger than 12% of 12%. Assuming 10% of White Americans (and therefore ~20% of the Republican Party) are so intolerant of Black people that they would not tolerate their party making substantial overtures to Black America...and that 10% of the White voting population is going to be bigger than anything but a MAJORITY of the Black population.

Do you think the Republicans will ever believe they can capture a majority of the Black population, and will risk all their anti-Black voters to do it?


The only solution, as others have pointed out here, is to refuse to vote for the Democratic Party, or to form a third party. Those are the only two places where the leadership will substantially cater to Black interests...but in the Democratic Party, it will ONLY happen if they really start losing the Black vote, and can't just assume it.

Refuse to vote for the Democrats, yes. But don't think you're going to get anything from the Republicans unless some massive social event changes the entire nature of American politics.

Of course Republicans would trade that 10% of racially intolerant white voters for black voters. Black voters are far more valuable per capita because they serve the dual purpose of reducing Democratic votes. Those racist whites won't be voting Democrat, they'd just disengage from the political process.

The black vote is 18 million strong. Romney got 6% and lost to Obama by 5 million total votes. If we give Romney 12%, which would drop Obama by 6%, that's a shift of 2 million votes. Not enough to close the 5 million gap that Obama beat Romney by. In order to make a difference, blacks would need to start voting like Hispanics. Romney got 27% of the Hispanic vote. If he got a similar share of the black vote, that'd be a shift of around 9 million votes, more than enough to win the election. The magic number for Romney would have been around 17% of the black vote. If they saw a feasible way to get to 17%, I suspect you would see them fighting for the black vote.

Anyway, I don't suspect this will happen because the importance of the black vote is becoming a relic of the past, especially because it's totally ossified in favour of the Democrats. Both parties realize Hispanics, who are more willing to split their vote effectively, are the future of the nation, which is why the Republicans tried to set the stage by promoting Jeb and Marco and Ted, and Democrats are going ham for amnesty. The Black community will be left behind by both parties because the power of the vote has not been leveraged effectively. Hispanics are now the most valuable voting community per capita.

 

[bzb]

some of you just don't get it. even if blacks voted republican it wouldn't help us where it matters most...at the local and state level.

republican voters and their communities are segregated from black voters and our communities. that was the purpose of all the gerrymandering and redistricting they've been doing since obama got elected. it consolidates their votes and any benefits that come from having republicans in power. they would have no incentive to do what we demand because it wouldn't change their way of life or jeopardize the people they have in power where they live even if they had all our vote.

not to mention the judicial, legal, and economic impact it would have on us on a national level if they controlled congress, executive, and supreme Court.

for example take mississippi. they have all white fed judges. why? because they have state wide voting that dilutes the votes of minorities. all of those judges are republicans. have any of checked out how difficult a time black folks have there? you think if we all voted republican in that state it would improve our lives??

some of you are too emotional about hating the dem party. i can't blame you but we have to think about this logically. the history and platform of republicans are not for us. we would have more economic and political power if we voted more consistently in larger numbers. black people have numbers in urban and metro areas. if we could control more in those state capitals and surrounding areas we would have more pull. we just don't use our numbers well unless it's a presidential election. at midterms and local elections we don't show up. that's why our voting strength isn't as powerful as it could be. both sides know that, but the republicans dgaf because as long as they hold the governor's office and keep our voting power low they can do what they want.