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I've had a chic that was into me... who was schizo, like seriously. Had severe mental issues. Seemed okay on the outside but i saw her on FB one time threatening to shoot somebody and so the next time I saw her, I asked her what was up

chic gave me her whole medical background, in a very cheery upbeat tone. Like seriously, describing her messed up mental state almost like you would describe what you had for breakfast

even showed me her medical paperwork

had me :picard:


chic was still tryna holla at me, but I swerved her hard, cause I'm not into craziness

but if I had sexed her, would that have been taking advantage of her?

it wasn't like she was incapable of making decisions. She was just schizo and so she had to take medicine :jbhmm:







This you breh :lolbron:
 

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:jbhmm: this is a good question. I want to say that if a woman reports it immediately, that of course it would be semen, hair, dna samples that could be taken as proof.

But of course, some don't report it right away.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this... If a woman comes out immediately and says she was raped, and there's PROOF? Throw that nicca under the jail, castrate him, I don't care.

But if a woman decides to wait, then the full animus should be on her to provide proof. It's either, you can report it immediately and something can be done about it...

or you can take your time reporting,

But if you take your time reporting, waiting years and years... :ufdup: then you either come with proof or shut the hell up
What about the thousands of untested rape kits sitting in storage all across this country?
 

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I was talking about this earlier in a thread where someone said, Raping someone and taking advantage of someone is a BIG DIFFERENCE. I said it earlier, and I'll say it again:

Let's start off by taking into account the idiom “take advantage of.” The literal definition of this idiom is: “To profit selfishly by; exploit.” When you're taking advantage of an intoxicated women, you are exploiting a weakness, you are selfishly exploiting their vulnerability. The only reason you need to take advantage of someone’s weakness is if you are trying to get them to do something that they wouldn’t do otherwise. If you're taking advantage of girls who are really drunk, that implies you are using their drunken state to bypass the need to obtain their valid or should I say coherent consent, which they probably wouldn’t give you if they were of sound mind.

I don't consider it to be a "BIG DIFFERENCE," I'd consider it a "Fine line." We can call it the "Frat boy line." I do admit that “taking advantage of a woman” is not always the same as rape, which is why they are not synonyms, but it is also true that many guys lack a clear understanding of when “taking advantage of a woman” becomes rape. This is where sexual misconduct comes in, to be found guilty of sexual misconduct, you have to have sex with somebody without their general consent. If someone is intoxicated or drugged to the point that they are not of sound mind, then they cannot consent, and so if you have sex with them, you can be considered guilty of this Class A misdemeanor. It's sort of like, if people get married and they're drunk or one of them is drunk, it could be granted as invalid in court if you argue that the person was too drunk, and not of sound mind to give consent. It's happened.

AND FURTHER MORE, there's no comparison with a man leaving a woman at the altar and a woman changing her mind midway through sex. There shouldn't be "violent" reactions because you're a fukking human being not a dog. YOU CAN CONTROL YOURSELF. Bust your nut in your hand or wherever you do like any other night. A relationship, being in love and spending tens of thousands or more on a wedding to be left and humiliated in front of everyone you know, that's definitely not the same as someone you barely know realizing they made a poor decision and backstepping. Ya'll be waayyyyyy off in comparisons.
 

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Taking p*ssy is not even a pleasurable thought. The fact a woman is submitting and giving it up is what gets my 4 inches rock hard.
 

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AND FURTHER MORE, there's no comparison with a man leaving a woman at the altar and a woman changing her mind midway through sex. There shouldn't be "violent" reactions because you're a fukking human being not a dog. YOU CAN CONTROL YOURSELF. Bust your nut in your hand or wherever you do like any other night. A relationship, being in love and spending tens of thousands or more on a wedding to be left and humiliated in front of everyone you know, that's definitely not the same as someone you barely know realizing they made a poor decision and backstepping. Ya'll be waayyyyyy off in comparisons.

Ftr, I agree, it would be ideal for a man to not get violent over a woman changing her mind, but to think that ALL men are going to change is naive. It’s like asking for murder to stop. Crazy people will always exist. People should be aware of the risks when taking part in activities, such as going to a party full of people you don’t know and getting drunk.

And as far as that comparison I made, I stand by it. I was comparing the importance of those things. Many men get married JUST to have sex with a woman. Men(especially the ones that don’t get any) are desperate to have sex. To the desperate, it is the most important thing next to eating and breathing. So when they get let down, there is potential for that guy to be upset. Not saying he’s justified in reacting violently, but it can most certainly happen. The letdown of being left at the altar and the letdown of not having complete sex when you desperately wanted it, can be viewed as equal letdowns. We may agree to disagree but I stand by my comparison.
 

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:jbhmm: this is a good question. I want to say that if a woman reports it immediately, that of course it would be semen, hair, dna samples that could be taken as proof.

But of course, some don't report it right away.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this... If a woman comes out immediately and says she was raped, and there's PROOF? Throw that nicca under the jail, castrate him, I don't care.

But if a woman decides to wait, then the full animus should be on her to provide proof. It's either, you can report it immediately and something can be done about it...

or you can take your time reporting,

But if you take your time reporting, waiting years and years... :ufdup: then you either come with proof or shut the hell up

How do you think these databases work? What if he hasn't ever been arrested so he's not in any database? What if the DNA that they found was just done hair from when she sat on the bus?

You think the only bit of hair or DNA on her will be from the person that raped her? What if he uses a condom?

Have you nikkas ever talked to a lawyer? Go ask them how easy it is to get a rape charge to stick in court. And, contrary to what you may think, reporting it is hard as fukk and the process of going through a trial while reliving traumatic events is brutal mentally.

You didn't think about the fear? You can't file a report and the person is instantly found. What if was someone close to her (Majority of rapes are from someone close to the victim) who might know where she lives?

There are a lot of factors that come into those things. Protect yourself, don't chase drunk women, and learn empathy.

Y'all telling women victims to put their utmost faith in a justice system that most of y'all don't even trust to protect you.
 

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Ftr, I agree, it would be ideal for a man to not get violent over a woman changing her mind, but to think that ALL men are going to change is naive. It’s like asking for murder to stop. Crazy people will always exist. People should be aware of the risks when taking part in activities, such as going to a party full of people you don’t know and getting drunk.

And as far as that comparison I made, I stand by it. I was comparing the importance of those things. Many men get married JUST to have sex with a woman. Men(especially the ones that don’t get any) are desperate to have sex. To the desperate, it is the most important thing next to eating and breathing. So when they get let down, there is potential for that guy to be upset. Not saying he’s justified in reacting violently, but it can most certainly happen. The letdown of being left at the altar and the letdown of not having complete sex when you desperately wanted it, can be viewed as equal letdowns. We may agree to disagree but I stand by my comparison.

Definitely going to have to agree to disagree on this one. :yeshrug:
 

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I was talking about this earlier in a thread where someone said, Raping someone and taking advantage of someone is a BIG DIFFERENCE. I said it earlier, and I'll say it again:

Let's start off by taking into account the idiom “take advantage of.” The literal definition of this idiom is: “To profit selfishly by; exploit.” When you're taking advantage of an intoxicated women, you are exploiting a weakness, you are selfishly exploiting their vulnerability. The only reason you need to take advantage of someone’s weakness is if you are trying to get them to do something that they wouldn’t do otherwise. If you're taking advantage of girls who are really drunk, that implies you are using their drunken state to bypass the need to obtain their valid or should I say coherent consent, which they probably wouldn’t give you if they were of sound mind.

I don't consider it to be a "BIG DIFFERENCE," I'd consider it a "Fine line." We can call it the "Frat boy line." I do admit that “taking advantage of a woman” is not always the same as rape, which is why they are not synonyms, but it is also true that many guys lack a clear understanding of when “taking advantage of a woman” becomes rape. This is where sexual misconduct comes in, to be found guilty of sexual misconduct, you have to have sex with somebody without their general consent. If someone is intoxicated or drugged to the point that they are not of sound mind, then they cannot consent, and so if you have sex with them, you can be considered guilty of this Class A misdemeanor. It's sort of like, if people get married and they're drunk or one of them is drunk, it could be granted as invalid in court if you argue that the person was too drunk, and not of sound mind to give consent. It's happened.

AND FURTHER MORE, there's no comparison with a man leaving a woman at the altar and a woman changing her mind midway through sex. There shouldn't be "violent" reactions because you're a fukking human being not a dog. YOU CAN CONTROL YOURSELF. Bust your nut in your hand or wherever you do like any other night. A relationship, being in love and spending tens of thousands or more on a wedding to be left and humiliated in front of everyone you know, that's definitely not the same as someone you barely know realizing they made a poor decision and backstepping. Ya'll be waayyyyyy off in comparisons.

So what you're saying is that if two people are drunk, it's still the man's fault and women shouldn't be held accountable for decisions made under the influence while men should be held 100% accountable for their decisions while intoxicated and should catch a misdemeanor charge if they're drunk fukking drunk women :jbhmm:
 
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