5th Annual Carson Palmer Interception thread

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Carson Palmer:

2004: 6-7, 18 TD, 18 INT
2005: 11-5, 32 TD, 12 INT
2006: 8-8, 28 TD, 13 INT
2007: 7-9, 26 TD, 20 INT
2008: 0-4, 3 TD, 4 INT
2009: 10-6, 21 TD, 13 INT
2010: 4-12, 26 TD, 20 INT
2011: 4-5, 13 TD, 16 INT
2012: 4-11, 22 TD, 14 INT
2013: 10-6, 24 TD, 22 INT
2014: 6-0, 11 TD, 3 INT

Career: 70-73, 224 TD, 155 INT, 62.6 completion percentage

According to Pro Football Reference, his most similar counterpart is Troy Aikman....apparently without the Super Bowl titles.

Troy Aikman: 94-71, 165 TD, 141 INT, 61.5% completion percentage

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:dame: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/troy...-the-hall-of-fame.346660/page-4#post-14801878
 

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To be honest, if Troy Aikman didn't win those Super Bowls, he never makes the Hall of Fame.

I think Troy was a decent QB.
But Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Daryl Johnston, Jay Novacek, Russell Maryland, Charles Haley, Ken Norton Jr....those guys won those Super Bowls.
Not Aikman.

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:stopitslime: I swear u fakkits dont watch football





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Low key, Carson's been a top 10 QB in the league over the last 1 1/2 seasons when healthy.

Over his last 16 games, he's thrown 4,000 yards 25 td's 11 ints 65% completion rate.


Looked real good before he got injured halfway through the season last year

8-0 as a starter

Put up 1,626 yds 11 td's and only 3 ints with a 95.6% QB rating.

Other than that atrocious first half of the '13 season, once he got accustomed to Bruce Arians offense, shyt, he's been arguably a top 10 QB:yeshrug:
 

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I dunno how old you are but I actually watched those teams and while Aikman did the job, the numbers don't lie.

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LOOK AT TROYS NUMBERS IN EACH SEASON HE WON THE SB. HOW CAN YOU SAY THOSE OTHER PLAYERS WON THOSE SB'S WHEN TROY PLAYED WELL IN ALL 3 OF THOSE POSTSEASONS.
 

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Low key, Carson's been a top 10 QB in the league over the last 1 1/2 seasons when healthy.

Over his last 16 games, he's thrown 4,000 yards 25 td's 11 ints 65% completion rate.


Looked real good before he got injured halfway through the season last year

8-0 as a starter

Put up 1,626 yds 11 td's and only 3 ints with a 95.6% QB rating.

Other than that atrocious first half of the '13 season, once he got accustomed to Bruce Arians offense, shyt, he's been arguably a top 10 QB:yeshrug:
There's a Jay cutler interception thread too so we gonna eat this year regardless :eat:
 

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LOOK AT TROYS NUMBERS IN EACH SEASON HE WON THE SB. HOW CAN YOU SAY THOSE OTHER PLAYERS WON THOSE SB'S WHEN TROY PLAYED WELL IN ALL 3 OF THOSE POSTSEASONS.
1992 Troy Aikman:

63.8% completion percentage. (5th)
3,445 yards (4th)
23 TD/14 INT (3rd in TD)

Emmitt Smith ran for 1,713 yards and the defense ranked 5th overall. Aikman upped his completion percentage to 68.5% in the playoffs, averaging 265 yards a game. Eight TD and 0 INT. Outstanding.

1993 Troy Aikman:

69.1% competion percentage. (1st)
3,100 yards (10th)
15 TD/6 INT (12th in TD)

Emmit Smith ran for 1,486 yards and the defense ranked 2nd in the league. Aikman upped his completion percentage to 74.4% in the playoffs, averaging 228 yards a game. Five TD with 3 INTs. More of a game manager than anything. He dinked and dunked the ball to Novacek and Johnston 12 times in his game against Green Bay and was super conservative against the 49ers (attempting only 18 passes) and again in the Super Bowl. Good. But not exactly HOF-worthy.

1995 Troy Aikman:

64.8% completion percentage. (2nd)
3,304 yards (13th)
16 TD/7 INT (20th in TD)

Emmitt Smith ran for 1,773 yards and the defense ranked 3rd in the league. Aikman upped his completion percentage to 66.3% in the playoffs, averaging 239 yards a game. Four TD and 1 INT. His only real performance (255 yards against Green Bay) came in a game where Emmitt Smith rant he ball 35 times for 150 yards and 3 TD. The other 2 games he was a game manager. That Super Bowl against Pittsburgh he went 15-23 for 209 yards.

And this is just the 3 seasons he won the Super Bowl in.
The rest of his career is worse.
If you want to judge Troy's entire career based on 3 years, you're a fool.

Troy Aikman is 32nd in Passing Yards.
Troy Aikman is 65th in Passing Touchdowns.
Troy Aikman is 49th in Passer Rating.
Troy Aikman is 25th in Completion Percentage, just behind Jeff Garcia.

His career Similar Players are as follows: Carson Palmer, Mark Brunnel, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve McNair, Eli Manning and Ken Stabler.

He never won a league MVP.
Nobody is saying Troy Aikman sucked, but Hall of Fame?

Maybe your definition of what qualifies as Hall of Fame-worthy is different from mine.
But at no point in his career was he even close to being the best QB in the league. Brett Favre, John Elway, Steve Young, and Dan Marino would have done the same or better than Aikman did with those Cowboys teams.
 

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1992 Troy Aikman:

63.8% completion percentage. (5th)
3,445 yards (4th)
23 TD/14 INT (3rd in TD)

Emmitt Smith ran for 1,713 yards and the defense ranked 5th overall. Aikman upped his completion percentage to 68.5% in the playoffs, averaging 265 yards a game. Eight TD and 0 INT. Outstanding.

1993 Troy Aikman:

69.1% competion percentage. (1st)
3,100 yards (10th)
15 TD/6 INT (12th in TD)

Emmit Smith ran for 1,486 yards and the defense ranked 2nd in the league. Aikman upped his completion percentage to 74.4% in the playoffs, averaging 228 yards a game. Five TD with 3 INTs. More of a game manager than anything. He dinked and dunked the ball to Novacek and Johnston 12 times in his game against Green Bay and was super conservative against the 49ers (attempting only 18 passes) and again in the Super Bowl. Good. But not exactly HOF-worthy.

1995 Troy Aikman:

64.8% completion percentage. (2nd)
3,304 yards (13th)
16 TD/7 INT (20th in TD)

Emmitt Smith ran for 1,773 yards and the defense ranked 3rd in the league. Aikman upped his completion percentage to 66.3% in the playoffs, averaging 239 yards a game. Four TD and 1 INT. His only real performance (255 yards against Green Bay) came in a game where Emmitt Smith rant he ball 35 times for 150 yards and 3 TD. The other 2 games he was a game manager. That Super Bowl against Pittsburgh he went 15-23 for 209 yards.

And this is just the 3 seasons he won the Super Bowl in.
The rest of his career is worse.
If you want to judge Troy's entire career based on 3 years, you're a fool.

Troy Aikman is 32nd in Passing Yards.
Troy Aikman is 65th in Passing Touchdowns.
Troy Aikman is 49th in Passer Rating.
Troy Aikman is 25th in Completion Percentage, just behind Jeff Garcia.


His career Similar Players are as follows: Carson
He never won a league MVP.
Nobody is saying Troy Aikman sucked, but Hall of Fame?


Maybe your definition of what qualifies as Hall of Fame-worthy is different from mine.
But at no point in his career was he even close to being the best QB in the league. Brett Favre, John Elway, Steve Young, and Dan Marino would have done the same or better than Aikman did with those Cowboys teams.
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QBs across different eras brehs. And lol at you scoffing at his 100plus qb ratings in two playoffs saying thats being a game manager. Troy had the most wins of any Qb in the 90s and won 3 Super Bowls. In his 5 best seasons 1991-1995 l, he ranked:
91: 6th in passer rating (above moon and marino)

92: 3rd in passer rating (above favre marino)

93: 2nd in passer rating (above elway montana)

94: 5th in passer rating (above kelly and montana)

95: 3rd in passer rating (above young and marino)


Thats 5 seasons in a row in which he was ranked higher than at least 2 hof qbs and was ranked in the top 10. So wtf are you talking about breh. Add on his playoff perfomances especially in 92 and you have a HoF QB. On top of that he was clutch and played his best in big games.




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