6 cert gang bout to eat

[JT-Money]

They can try to, I've seen it haooen.

Didn't work out too well

I've worked for and done business with plenty of companies that farmed out IT work to India. Only to have them bring it back to the US after the shyt blew up in their face. Some companies are even charging a premium for customers that want US based support since the overseas support is so bad.

I asked this one vendor for a huge paycut on a services contract when he was bragging about how much less he paid for Romanian workers than US based ones. He quickly shut the hell up because the work the Romanians were doing wasn't any better just cheaper.

 

[Wink Beaufield]

Real talk the contractor game about to blow up even more here in DC.

 

[JT-Money]

Real talk the contractor game about to blow up even more here in DC.

I might even look to jump back into the IT job market once the fraud is stamped out. Or just force my current employer to increase my salary for me to stay.

U.S. uncovers $20M H-1B fraud scheme
Trump limits on visas could ripple through Charlotte’s business sector
Highly Educated Foreign Workers Treated Like Indentured Servants

 

[aXiom]

Cynicism is pointless if its based in nothing.
There has never been a nation like the US, interconnected with nearly every other nation-state on the planet, and certainly never been a nation-state that inner-connected, economically and politically, that has fallen.

Ok? And there has never been a site like the coli.. fukk you tryna say?

Until knowledge can be purchased with a currency other than time, my statement rings true.

I certainly am in support of a massive educational overhaul that no longer places economic barriers in the way of students, particularly students of color, particularly Black and Native American children, and with that a structure surrounding that education that encourages innovation and major personal growth.
But I'm also not arrogant enough to believe that my investment, personal or otherwise, in the changes of the industry, actually matter to anyone but myself.

Here it is again in just incase you missed the first part of my post:

Either way I don't really give a fukk.

 

[TEH]

Trump is doing a good thing here ... but let me duck outta this thread right quick like Bush

 

[Xtraz2]

Some times they not homie. Kat I knew was on a H-1B was put up in a hotel and making like 30k which was slightly more than he was making in his home country.

That is some times the hustle with those visas they can pay these folks chump change compared to US kats.

The whole not enough engineers and tech folks montra that the US companies spit is just to get lower wage workers overseas. We got tons of young folks graduating in these fields and other fields. These companies know they can pay an engineer 25k in india than pay some kat 50 to 60k here in the US.

Remeber it is the overhead that costs the most......not the material or even the shipping cost. The workers that put the shyt together, or design it or program it is what costs the most. You cut labor costs you make the biggest increase in profit.

If we could go back to the 1910s when there was no unions, no equal pay for a days work and they could pay people nothing. These companies would be hiring Americans left and right and move those jobs from overseas to here.

If they are making 30k that means their 3rd party recruiter is taking their profits, there is a lot of that type of abuse going on also with these workers, they don't mind cuz they are still making more than tha typical American worker

other than that no tech company is paying 30k salaries for these high tech positions

 

[Klyk21]

They will find a loophole to stay

 

[Saiyajin]

#6Certs #6Figures #6Series #6feet+ #6inches+ #6sidebytches

 

[Saiyajin]

If they are making 30k that means their 3rd party recruiter is taking their profits, there is a lot of that type of abuse going on also with these workers, they don't mind cuz they are still making more than tha typical American worker

other than that no tech company is paying 30k salaries for these high tech positions

dont get it twisted the guys getting paid 100k are putting in $200k+ amount of work

theyre extremely valuable individuals who are among the smartest on the planet

silicon valley would absolutely love to pay someone as little as possible to do the same thing, the reason they cant is because these ppl in so rare, india and china have more than 1/3rd of all humans so thats why so many are from there

 

[Xtraz2]

dont get it twisted the guys getting paid 100k are putting in $200k+ amount of work

theyre extremely valuable individuals who are among the smartest on the planet

silicon valley would absolutely love to pay someone as little as possible to do the same thing, the reason they cant is because these ppl in so rare, india and china have almost 1/3rd of all humans so thats why so many are from there

Lol no they not, 90% of them have fake resumes, most of that consulting work is bullshyt

do they sit around all day? probably not

but they definitely getting paid exceedingly more than wut they bringing to tha table

are there geniuses really with tha shyts bringing a load of talent? Yes...not tha majority

 

[Originalman]

They can try to, I've seen it haooen.

Didn't work out too well

I seen both as well.

Do a experiment and look in your house and see how much stuff in your house is built in the US.

Even take a look at what you have on and see how much of it is built in the US.

Working for international companies and spending a lot of time overseas. I can tell you brotha this shipping work overseas ain't stopping when it comes to commercial sector. Them folks in the midwest and Pennsylvania been voted Reagan, bush sr and bush jr in and it stil didn't bring them jobs back.

I will never forget after 9/11 and 2008 how telecom companies shipped whole departments to india and china.

All because of the labor rates (when that economy tanks these companies go running for lower rates like johns go running for escorts on backpage). To tell you the truth a lot of these companies don't even care as much about poor quality overseas. In the end they look at it as a necessary evil. Cause the CEOs and VPs are bean counters. As long as that shyt ain't cutting in overall profits and customers ain't turning their back they good.

DoD is one of the few fields where this shyt can't go down in high levels.

 

[Saiyajin]

Lol no they not, 90% of them have fake resumes, most of that consulting work is bullshyt

do they sit around all day? probably not

but they definitely getting paid exceedingly more than wut they bringing to tha table

are there geniuses really with tha shyts bringing a load of talent? Yes...not tha majority

the hiring process is vigorous as hell and i dont doubt they lie on their resume but most jobs have actual problems that they give their applicants to solve, as well as expecting portfolios of what the applicant has done. its a tough process

capitalism is a race to the bottom, these corporations will never pay a person more than the bare minimum to satisfy what they need.

thats why theyre scared shytless, loss of h1-b means less supply of capable workers that the corporations can exploit

and instead of hiring within the USA, theyll just move to Asia or another country that has the h1-b program instead. These corporations do not care as long as they make maximum profit.

 

[Xtraz2]

the hiring process is vigorous as hell and i dont doubt they lie on their resume but most jobs have actual problems that they give their applicants to solve, as well as expecting portfolios of what the applicant has done. its a tough process

capitalism is a race to the bottom, these corporations will never pay a person more than the bare minimum to satisfy what they need.

thats why theyre scared shytless, loss of h1-b means less supply of capable workers that the corporations can exploit

tha hiring process is not rigorous when they go through these 3rd party recruiters, they have contracts with employers so they get these dudes in, tha catch is they take a chunk of their salary, these dudes are actually learning on tha job

 

[Xtraz2]

My Comment - Mr Ravi on Fake resumes - SAP Blogs

Tips to Weed Out OPT and H1B Candidates' Fake Resumes

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I seen both as well.

Do a experiment and look in your house and see how much stuff in your house is built the US.

Even take a look at what you have on and see how much of it is built in the US.

Working for international companies and spending a lot of time overseas. I can tell you brotha this shipping work overseas ain't stopping when it comes to commercial sector. Them folks in the midwest and Pennsylvania been voted Reagan, bush sr and bush jr in and it stil didn't bring them jobs back.

I will never forget after 9/11 and 2008 how telecom companies shipped whole departments to india and china.

All because of the labor rates (when that economy tanks these companies go running for lower rates like johns go running for escorts on backpage). To tell you the truth a lot of these companies don't even care as much about poor quality overseas. In the end they look at it as a necessary evil. Cause the CEOs and VPs are bean counters. As long as that shyt ain't cutting in overall profits and customers ain't turning their back they good.

DoD is one of the few fields where this shyt can't go down in high levels.

Exactly

I can understand loweage labor jobs being sent overseas. Its still greedy ass CEOs and shyt that are fukked up.

But something like high level IT? Usually that serves US citizens abd small businesses but are outsourced overseas? Thats stupid imo regardless of how many intellgent STEM people are at apple. That's because Apple is actively looking for them and they're not typical IT. They are other shyt dealing with apps, programming, etc. not really administration for small/large companies, security, etc. I'm sure they got a team for that but most these people are tech startup types... Not admin.

I've seen that shyt bomb. It happened to my mom.. Her company outsourced her entire IT department to nikkas in brazil and that shyt was s mess. They tried to get her to come back as a manager a few years later and she told them HELL No. She was very bitter and angry because she was an IT manager for like 10 years there. Bled sweated and cried for them. And now they still got to pay her retirement

I'm trying to actually go back overseas with the DOD and the DOD jobs stay hiring IT.. Especially if you have a clearance, which is something outsourced employees will never get.