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So let me get this straight

when men were calling out the blatant push of women on screen and women hero’s being overpowered robots, they were incels. Movies were fiction so it’s fine.

now this woman says “I wanna be strong but without being strong” it’s a good feminist point?

OP makes sense. I thought we were supposed to be at a point where “acting like a man” was supposed to be an outdated saying?

How is this quote literally not knowing what the hell you want:
“I imagine excavating my own desires, wants and needs, which I have buried so deeply to meet the desires, wants and needs of men around me that I’m not yet sure how my own desire would power the protagonist of a narrative,” she writes. “These are not yet solutions. But they are places to dig.”
 

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Ah. I guess the question is why would they do this instead of just making the character a man? I also thought women liked Rey and man-babies hated her.
It say its easier to just write the same type of roles they've always written, instead of finding out what makes women strong in real life and taking liberties with real female strength.

Hardcore feminist love Rey, but most normal women I've talked to can point out the fact that she starts the trilogy strong and doesn't grow throughout the movies, they understand why shes a boring character.
 

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How can ripley not be a man?

she literally gets in a fukking mech suit and wrestles the damn alien
She's written like a normal person just trying to survive. She not some completely fearless superhero like women are written nowadays.

If aliens were released today, Ripley would have wrestled it without the mech suit.
 

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She's written like a normal person just trying to survive. She not some completely fearless superhero like women are written nowadays.
That’s not what the author said though. She said “masculine” qualities, not superhero qualities. And I thought women wanted to be superheroes?

If you’re boiling this down to “characters should be realistic”, well duh? Who doesn’t want that in any character?

But Ripley was not a “normal” person let alone woman in alien. And especially not one in relation to this lady’s criteria. Or else she would not be the hero leader using a lot of her physicality. I just want to know what are these strong female qualities that can play a lead she wants more of.

And just a heads up

RIPLEY WAS LITERALLY WRITTEN TO BE A fukkING MAN

Sigourney Weaver: Ripley character in sci-fi movie Alien was originally written as a man
 

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"But the more I acted the Strong Female Lead, the more I became aware of the narrow specificity of the characters’ strengths — physical prowess, linear ambition, focused rationality. Masculine modalities of power,” she writes.


fascinating. brit associates rationality with the masculine :jbhmm:



“But I don’t want to be a strong female lead either, if my power is defined largely by violence and domination, conquest and colonization.


lol white bytches are hilarious b. claiming to taking issue with the white man's raping and pillaging but having ZERO problems enjoying the spoils of war. feminism is what's brackin fam :wow:
 
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feminist aint gonna be happy until
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That’s not what the author said though. She said “masculine” qualities, not superhero qualities. And I thought women wanted to be superheroes?

If you’re boiling this down to “characters should be realistic”, well duh? Who doesn’t want that in any character?

But Ripley was not a “normal” person let alone woman in alien. And especially not one in relation to this lady’s criteria. Or else she would not be the hero leader using a lot of her physicality. I just want to know what are these strong female qualities that can play a lead she wants more of.

And just a heads up

RIPLEY WAS LITERALLY WRITTEN TO BE A fukkING MAN

Sigourney Weaver: Ripley character in sci-fi movie Alien was originally written as a man
I dont know what's hard to understand. The movie aliens was written in a way where it didn't feel like Ripley was unnaturally powerful compared to the rest of the cast.

Compare that to Rey, who's unnaturally powerful from the start, headed by a woman who's vocal about the fact that her being a woman makes her powerful (the force is female movement)

Casting some 5 foot 2 actress to play a role beating the shyt outta athlete size men seems to be the only way strong female leads are written.
 
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