Dart Adams is insufferable to me, but I'll read this piece
90's Rap misconceptions?
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The Amerikkkan Idol
The Amerikkkan Nightmare
Well, I mean, The Chronic came out in like December, so it makes sense.
Right, after Kane and Big Daddy Kane nikkaz was not trying to dance no more, G.
Really, gangsta rap killed that.
DaveyDave
Superstar
For example, 30 seconds into Google Play’s mini-documentary for the 20th anniversary of “Illmatic” in 2014, Peter Rosenberg said that “in a lot of ways established Hip Hop as an artform to be taken really seriously”. Really, Peter?
more bullshyt from Rosenberg, showing he doesn't really have an in depth knowledge of this shyt
Idk as a kid of the 90’s when you compare it to today it was super lyrical
look at the Hot Boys and a young wayne, it wasn’t entendred/metaphored out but every song on those albums had 4 verses and none of them were tiring. Probably the worst from the mainstream 90’s in terms of lyrical quality came from No limit but even that today looks like Illmatic next to a playboy carti or 6ix9ine album.
Every album esp an anticipated one you were garunteed a love song, a story telling song, a super lyrical song (to the artists potential), a battle song, a radio hit type a song, a “reflection/coming of age” song, a super collab song, a “where I’m from” song, a smoke/drink song...etc and looking back compared to now, that wasn’t a bad thing....
look at the Hot Boys and a young wayne, it wasn’t entendred/metaphored out but every song on those albums had 4 verses and none of them were tiring. Probably the worst from the mainstream 90’s in terms of lyrical quality came from No limit but even that today looks like Illmatic next to a playboy carti or 6ix9ine album.
Every album esp an anticipated one you were garunteed a love song, a story telling song, a super lyrical song (to the artists potential), a battle song, a radio hit type a song, a “reflection/coming of age” song, a super collab song, a “where I’m from” song, a smoke/drink song...etc and looking back compared to now, that wasn’t a bad thing....
get these nets
Veteran
Can't take anybody who listens to or cites rosenberg seriously.
Not coming at you because you know your stuff but "Hard Like A Criminal" is on their demo. A lot of people who had the demo were upset "Hard Like A Criminal" wasn't on the album. There is also a story song that didn't make the album that wasn't as dope.
I don't know if the people in charge of the creative direction didn't feel like it fit or what. Or maybe they were on that "We only get paid for 9-10 songs so let's save the extra tracks", but that song might have helped their perception a little.
DaveyDave
Superstar
Straight Up Sewaside was one of my fav album as a young'n. At that age, Mum wouldn't let me get stuff if it had a parental advisory sticker on it and that one didn't have it for whatever reason this didn't have one. Homie around the corner had Doggystyle and all that so i got the dubs off him and just copped cds when i could.
Random thoughts reading the thread:
1. The 2nd DAS EFX album was dope as fukk. After that, aside from a random song here and there I lost track of them.
2. Mobb Deep blew up off the strength of "Shook Ones II". I'm talking on a street level. If the labels or radio or whatever decided to give them a chance because of Nas or them being from the same hood ok cool but that had zero bearing on people checking for them on a street level. I seen their video on BET, went to school the next day asking people if they'd heard of the group. And then copped the single like 2 weeks later. Passed it around. That's how Mobb Deep blew up.
Fred.
1. The 2nd DAS EFX album was dope as fukk. After that, aside from a random song here and there I lost track of them.
2. Mobb Deep blew up off the strength of "Shook Ones II". I'm talking on a street level. If the labels or radio or whatever decided to give them a chance because of Nas or them being from the same hood
ok cool but that had zero bearing on people checking for them on a street level. I seen their video on BET, went to school the next day asking people if they'd heard of the group. And then copped the single like 2 weeks later. Passed it around. That's how Mobb Deep blew up. Fred.
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
This is mad true.
A lot of artists who had only been out for 5-6 years in like '92, were already calling themselves "old school". You would also hear newer artists who dropped in the early 90's calling anything that dropped just a decade before "old school". KRS was calling himself "old school" after he had only been out for 5 years.
I think most people didn't expect Hip Hop careers to last that long. So back then, if you were able to stick around for longer than a few years, it was like a badge of honor. A lot of dudes were only able to drop 12 inches and then vanished. Being able to keep your career going for a few years was definitely a big deal back then.
SnowflakesByTheOZ
Sorry, that's another B
Who would you say were the Yachty’s and Carti’s of the 90’s ? And that’s no knock to Carti and Yachty I love them but who in the 90’s came with a distinctive style that was widely critiqued by the older crowd ?
Yeah it's hard for people not from that era to actually understand how different it was. Like obviously people talked about if albums were dope but nikkas was really into singles, videos or random joints that dropped. An artist might be your favorite that summer off of 1 song and maybe a feature, not an entire album. Redman was my favorite rapper before I even got a chance to hear Whut Thee Album.That's why when people mention the 90s and all they refer to is the albums, to me that's just HALF of the story... a lot of great albums no doubt but it's also the singles that kept the energy. Some had not-so-dope albums, but they still had songs that made impact. AND there are remixes that came out as the singles that were crazy, then you buy the album and it ain't same version from the video
Newark88
Superstar
Especially when albums back then were pushed back or shelved on the regular. People were bumping albums but low key (90 to about 94) people were copping cassette singles and mixtapes more so then full length artists albums. And if they would cop an album, 75% of the time it was bootlegged. I remember Brand Nubian’s first album and Illmatic being heavily bootlegged on the streets and people listening to those versions. nikkas in the streets weren’t buying real albums like that until the rise of Death Row with The Chronic (which blew up on the East Coast around Winter going into Spring of 93), Doggystyle, and BIG’s Ready To Die.
Facts! Plus nikkas did not have money like that to just cop tapes every time they dropped, so I borrowed a lot of albums until I could cop my own. I was a short in the 90s, so if my parents didn't cop it, I had to just wait to get a dub or borrow a lot of the times.
I got some meh albums in my collection only because I knew the single lol and my mom would be like "You can buy ONE ALBUM" and then I would cop from that.
When them Columbia House CDs came towards the mid-late 90s it was a game changer lmao. nikkas was coping 12 CDs for like 1 penny or some crazy shyt like that.
For those not a around then, that 12 tapes for a penny is no exaggeration btw
