90's Rap misconceptions?

[gluvnast]

Wrong nikka you don't know what the fukk you talking about ol fish dapping ass nikka let me check your punk ass

Souls of Mischief got dropped after their 2nd lp be didn't do the numbers they was expecting and Jive wanted to turn them to a Rap Boy Band and they wasn't down with that, you bytch ass nikka and this is from Tajai mouth, go find the article you lazy ass bum

And For Casual it was because of low record sales and he wanted more money from the label, this is from his own mouth, go find his article

nikka try to get daps with that Jive was going pop route, you can fool these nikkas on this board but not me and I'm from The Bay San Jose Homeboy

Oh let's get to Hammer, actually Hammer Had 3 record labels you fukkin bum and his deal in 88 was not a distribution deal he signed directly with Capitol Records

You know fukkin what I can Continue to bust your ass but naw, you just don't know what the fukk you talking about ol make up shyt to sound cool revisionist ass nikka

This nikka really tried

nikka, what part of the Heiro that I said wasn't true? You even stated yourself that Jive wanted Souls of Mischief to be more pop. Don't spin what I said by saying practically the SAME THING. It wasn't a secret that Jive was transitioning from being rap focused to a pop/R&B label. That's why they signed the Backstreet Boys in the mid-90's. They LEFT. They wanted out. Jive didn't push their 2nd album because of this. And they stayed independent ever since without trying to seek for another major.

Don't get upset because you got called out with your bullshyt.

Here's from the GROUP'S ON WORDS. Staring at the 1hr 23min mark.



And Hammer's deal with capitol WAS a distribution deal. That's how and why MC Hammer made so much money on his end. He didn't get a singular direct deal with Capitol. He owned Bust It records. Fucckin' do your research because you don't know shyt.

 

[Waterproof]

nikka, what part of the Heiro that I said wasn't true? You even stated yourself that Jive wanted Souls of Mischief to be more pop. Don't spin what I said by saying practically the SAME THING. It wasn't a secret that Jive was transitioning from being rap focused to a pop/R&B label. That's why they signed the Backstreet Boys in the mid-90's. They LEFT. They wanted out. Jive didn't push their 2nd album because of this. And they stayed independent ever since without trying to seek for another major.

Don't get upset because you got called out with your bullshyt.

Here's from the GROUP'S ON WORDS. Staring at the 1hr 23min mark.



And Hammer's deal with capitol WAS a distribution deal. That's how and why MC Hammer made so much money on his end. He didn't get a singular direct deal with Capitol. He owned Bust It records. Fucckin' do your research because you don't know shyt.

Naw nikka that shyt don't fly here, you tried though. Hammer really didn't start making money until he went Diamond and from his own venture with KFC, Mattel and ABC for his cartoons

And with Souls Jive wanted them on some alternative Arrested Development and PM Dawn shyt. So you can spin it anyway you want, They said Jive dropped them for low record sales and they gave them an ultimatum to let them change their image or get dropped. Like I said and like they said they basically got dropped for low Record sales

And Bust It Records was his lable that he dropped Oaktown 357 and Dougie Fresh before he signed with Capitol Records he was on Bustin Track.

Bruh just give it up already, you tried. Let's keep it Moving

 

[Threnody]

This thread should be renamed Ducktales OT its so much erroneous shyt
I had to stop reading this thread when some nikka was trying to say Nas was bigger than Mobb Deep in 1995 NOBODY who was actually in the streets/hip-hop back then would say some shyt like that

 

[The_Hillsta]

This thread should be renamed Ducktales OT its so much erroneous shyt
I had to stop reading this thread when some nikka was trying to say Nas was bigger than Mobb Deep in 1995 NOBODY who was actually in the streets/hip-hop back then would say some shyt like that

The problem I have is when cats try to say who or what another city was playin, or what was popular there.

Yeah, there were a lotta artists/albums that wasnt Chronic, Doggystyle status, or whatever but they didn't have to be. We still copped and dubbed those tapes. shyt, we knew about Illmatic here in the Bay. The day the shyt dropped Davey D and Raynell told us to go get the shyt if you into lyrics. Our radio stayed playin It Ain't Hard To Tell.

Was it popular here in the streets In the Bay? NO, but I cant sit up here and say NOBODY was bumpin it at all here or other places, KMEL played his shyt on the radio. I went away to college down south in 95' and met a bunch of East Coast cats who had the tape. If you was into hip hop, you stayed on top of ALL this shyt. You knew what was droppin, you knew what was hot in the street, you was glued to the radio, stayed in magazines, watched all the videos.

Unless you was a closed off muthafukka who only listened to folks from your city then you lawsed back then and now to a certain degree because there was a lotta dope music being dropped.

 

[get these nets]

This thread should be renamed Ducktales OT its so much erroneous shyt
I had to stop reading this thread when some nikka was trying to say Nas was bigger than Mobb Deep in 1995 NOBODY who was actually in the streets/hip-hop back then would say some shyt like that

Try to think of the music that came out that year. Nas status as a top dog was solidified by his guest appearance on two of the biggest albums that year Cuban Linx and.......................drumroll please, The Infamous.

And remember, in Nas' own words
"my first album had NO famous guest appearances/
the outcome? I was crowned the top lyricist"

Mobb Deep dropped a classic album that year, but Nas was still viewed as the best, if not one of the top artists in the game on the strength of Illmatic from the previous year, and features.

 

[Threnody]

Try to think of the music that came out that year. Nas status as a top dog was solidified by his guest appearance on two of the biggest albums that year Cuban Linx and.......................drumroll please, The Infamous.

And remember, in Nas' own words
"my first album had NO famous guest appearances/
the outcome? I was crowned the top lyricist"

Mobb Deep dropped a classic album that year, but Nas was still viewed as the best, if not one of the top artists in the game on the strength of Illmatic from the previous year, and features.

Nas being great (which he was) has nothing to do with the fact that Mobb Deep was bigger than Nas in 1995

Mobb Deep blew up before Nas (mainstream wise)

As someone who was like the biggest Nas stan back then in 1995 you average causal Hip-Hop fan barely knew who Nas was....you had to remind them

 

[get these nets]

Nas being great (which he was) has nothing to do with the fact that Mobb Deep was bigger than Nas in 1995

Mobb Deep blew up before Nas (mainstream wise)

As someone who was like the biggest Nas stan back then in 1995 you average causal Hip-Hop fan barely knew who Nas was....you had to remind them

I will concede that. When he did blow up, they knew him as "the guy on the song with Lauryn Hill"


But on the streets of the tri-state, Nas was a higher profile artist than Mobb Deep. Comparing anybody to Rakim was unthinkable years earlier, but then Nas came out and people actually began to say/think that. Not me.

 

[Waterproof]

This thread should be renamed Ducktales OT its so much erroneous shyt
I had to stop reading this thread when some nikka was trying to say Nas was bigger than Mobb Deep in 1995 NOBODY who was actually in the streets/hip-hop back then would say some shyt like that

Bruh I tried my hardest to stay away from this thread, because I knew there's going to be some revisionist going in this thread, after a few weeks I was like fukk it, let me see what they lying about and on the first page

They started with the bullshyt

 

[gluvnast]

Try to think of the music that came out that year. Nas status as a top dog was solidified by his guest appearance on two of the biggest albums that year Cuban Linx and.......................drumroll please, The Infamous.

And remember, in Nas' own words
"my first album had NO famous guest appearances/
the outcome? I was crowned the top lyricist"

Mobb Deep dropped a classic album that year, but Nas was still viewed as the best, if not one of the top artists in the game on the strength of Illmatic from the previous year, and features.

Now that's true. Nas stock climbed in '95 by appearing in both The Infamous and Cuban Links, and AZ's album especially since that's was his boy.

 

[Asicz]

Bruh I tried my hardest to stay away from this thread, because I knew there's going to be some revisionist going in this thread, after a few weeks I was like fukk it, let me see what they lying about and on the first page

They started with the bullshyt

You are literally the one with the biggest in this thread that alteast close to 50 people disagree with.

You said that Big L was some type of Big superstar in Rap when he was alive in the 90s. Big L particular rap style and production choices (hyper similie laden)was was becoming out of favor towards the late 90s right before his death.

Pac was a super star when he was alive and in death

Biggie was a super star when he was alive and in death.

Big L was not a super star when he was alive, and in death, over 10 years later he had a resurgence ,reverence and interest among younger generations of Rap listeners.

He became the go to for younger listeners to signal that the like "real Hip Hop". (Not necessarily a bad thing)

 

[Waterproof]

You are literally the one with the biggest in this thread that alteast close to 50 people disagree with.

You said that Big L was some type of Big superstar in Rap when he was alive in the 90s. Big L particular rap style and production choices (hyper similie laden)was was becoming out of favor towards the late 90s right before his death.

Pac was a super star when he was alive and in death

Biggie was a super star when he was alive and in death.

Big L was not a super star when he was alive, and in death, over 10 years later he had a resurgence ,reverence and interest among younger generations of Rap listeners.

He became the go to for younger listeners to signal that the like "real Hip Hop". (Not necessarily a bad thing)

Yo baby girl can I have my dikk back? Are you done with my dikk, you feelings still hurt you bytch nikka, it's Sunday football on and you acting like bytch

Okay Chad Henne got the first down, I play with you p*ssy

First sign of a bytch nikka, always putting 10 on some shyt, 50 people? bytch please it was 3 dudes that felled for that bullshyt about Jive Records, and I get it hoes don't fact check so they don't know better, I already handle that, dropped facts and receipts, Casual and Souls said they got dropped by record sales, Hammer signed to Capitol it wasn't a distribution deal, Buss It Records was made after his major debut that he dropped Oaktown 357

Another thing you groupie ass lying bytch I didn't say he was a Superstar, quote me and let's ban bet. What I said you stupid bytch he was known in Rap Circles because his video MVP was on Rap City and MTV Raps and he was advertised in the Source for his Lifestyle album

You see there's no Truth in you, you a bytch nikka, you are a son of a bytch and a son of a punk

 

[daze23]

I was a Big L fan, but Ebonics was really his first big song

 

[Asicz]

Yo baby girl can I have my dikk back? Are you done with my dikk, you feelings still hurt you bytch nikka, it's Sunday football on and you acting like bytch

Okay Chad Henne got the first down, I play with you p*ssy

First sign of a bytch nikka, always putting 10 on some shyt, 50 people? bytch please it was 3 dudes that felled for that bullshyt about Jive Records, and I get it hoes don't fact check so they don't know better, I already handle that, dropped facts and receipts, Casual and Souls said they got dropped by record sales, Hammer signed to Capitol it wasn't a distribution deal, Buss It Records was made after his major debut that he dropped Oaktown 357

Another thing you groupie ass lying bytch I didn't say he was a Superstar, quote me and let's ban bet. What I said you stupid bytch he was known in Rap Circles because his video MVP was on Rap City and MTV Raps and he was advertised in the Source for his Lifestyle album

You see there's no Truth in you, you a bytch nikka, you are a son of a bytch and a son of a punk

You are literally acting like a girl
because you got called out on your big time obviuous ducktales about Big L being a big time major player in the 90s when he was alive.

I will always son you on here

You will always turn into an emotional ho nikka

You will always be my bytch!

Even though you type stupid shyt on your phone

In Real life you would Never talk that stupid shyt you just did because nikkas would dismiss you for that

Go Eat a Corona dikk and die!

Little goofy ho nikka on ignore for trying to derail the thread lying about Big L

 

[the cool]

Absolutely correct in that Big L was not that big an artist when he was alive. Big L was one of those very regional east coast rappers (Really NY) that was incredibly dope but wasn't in the talks of ever being a GOAT when he was alive. Big L wasn't regularly brought up in conversations of who was the nicest at the time to the general public. You had to REALLY be into Hip Hop to even know L like that. Once he died you have a lot of teenagers/younger people enamored with the mythology of Big L more than anything. Big L had 1 album before he passed, and it was 4 Mics at best. The beats were kinda dated by time it dropped and even some of the raps were, to no fault of his own, a lot of it was recorded in 92-93 and it didn't drop til March 1995.

Not to take away from L, he was an elite MC. However, how he's regarded now from people that weren't outside during that era is nowhere near how he was regarded when he was alive.

Absolutely correct in that Big L was not that big an artist when he was alive. Big L was one of those very regional east coast rappers (Really NY) that was incredibly dope but wasn't in the talks of ever being a GOAT when he was alive. Big L wasn't regularly brought up in conversations of who was the nicest at the time to the general public. You had to REALLY be into Hip Hop to even know L like that. Once he died you have a lot of teenagers/younger people enamored with the mythology of Big L more than anything. Big L had 1 album before he passed, and it was 4 Mics at best. The beats were kinda dated by time it dropped and even some of the raps were, to no fault of his own, a lot of it was recorded in 92-93 and it didn't drop til March 1995.

Not to take away from L, he was an elite MC. However, how he's regarded now from people that weren't outside during that era is nowhere near how he was regarded when he was alive.

And I say this about nipsey hustle too. Was known but not like how after he died. Nobody bumped nipsey in Dallas. Once he died everyone and they mama was listening to it

 

[Waterproof]

You are literally acting like a girl
because you got called out on your big time obviuous ducktales about Big L being a big time major player in the 90s when he was alive.

I will always son you on here

You will always turn into an emotional ho nikka

You will always be my bytch!

Even though you type stupid shyt on your phone

In Real life you would Never talk that stupid shyt you just did because nikkas would dismiss you for that

Go Eat a Corona dikk and die!

Little goofy ho nikka on ignore for trying to derail the thread lying about Big L

Look at this lying bytch ass nikka, See A Man would have some self respect and check his hoe action's

Look at this grown ass man acting like a bytch looking for sympathy, not only that but using Big L to garner it. He's a hoe, a lying hoe.

The bytch said that I said Big L was a Superstar, just like a bytch making up shyt

This what I said "I'm from The Bay, and I knew about Big L, he was all up in the Source and his video MVP was getting heavy play on BET Rap City and Yo! MTV Raps, matter of fact I got his album Lifestyle from Sam Goody off the strength of his video, I was 18 in 95 and that album dropped during my Senior Year and it was a hot album on campus

I have to say Revisionist History, he was well known in the hip hop circle"

That's what I said, Moral of the story bytch nikkas do bytch things