A-F-R-O – Tales From The Basement Mixtape

[BOXINGGEMS]

Sir Future and Young Thug is doing something that has been done in mainstream for years and never left.

What Afro is doing has left hip hop and he is bringing it back.

You yourself said that he is mimicking his childhood heroes which properly shows that the style he is doing has been absent from hop hop for awhile.

It hasn't been absent. It's been done over and over on the underground. MF Doom does it but better. Hell even Eminem does this to some degree, but more coherently. He's a talented kid but he lacks any type of subject matter or experience it seems. The project's title is indicative of that. Sounds like he's just locked away in his basement rhyming.

This style will never be 'mainstream' and it isn't meant to be. However, even if he wants to be the king in this area of rap he needs to develop more. Not shytting on him because he has a solid foundation. But the next step is him doing more than rhyming words and multis. I'll be watching though.

It's a 3/5 project if you're being honest

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Sir Future and Young Thug is doing something that has been done in mainstream for years and never left.

What Afro is doing has left hip hop and he is bringing it back.

You yourself said that he is mimicking his childhood heroes which properly shows that the style he is doing has been absent from hop hop for awhile.

Yeah, future and thug are more derivative of the trap genre at this point. That being said, there are actual lyricists within the trap genre who have something to say AND got bars. Kevin Gates is one of the best lyricists out of the south period, he doesn't get his just due.

AFRO is at an experimental point in his career, he doesn't have a strong enough persona nor the content to really make the case. That's why I don't get the hype around him, it seems like mothafukkas will literally put anything on the pedestal as long as it isn't rapped over 808s.

 

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It hasn't been absent. It's been done over and over on the underground. MF Doom does it but better. Hell even Eminem does this to some degree, but more coherently. He's a talented kid but he lacks any type of subject matter or experience it seems. The project's title is indicative of that. Sounds like he's just locked away in his basement rhyming.

This style will never be 'mainstream' and it isn't meant to be. However, even if he wants to be the king in this area of rap he needs to develop more. Not shytting on him because he has a solid foundation. But the next step is him doing more than rhyming words and multis. I'll be watching though.

It's a 3/5 project if you're being honest

Lyricism was actually more mainstream back then with not too much reliance on hooks like it is now so yes it has been absent in the "Mainstream"

Yeah, future and thug are more derivative of the trap genre at this point. That being said, there are actual lyricists within the trap genre who have something to say AND got bars. Kevin Gates is one of the best lyricists out of the south period, he doesn't get his just due.

AFRO is at an experimental point in his career, he doesn't have a strong enough persona nor the content to really make the case. That's why I don't get the hype around him, it seems like mothafukkas will literally put anything on the pedestal as long as it isn't rapped over 808s.

Trap this and trap that, there is more to rap than trap shyt.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Lyricism was actually more mainstream back then with not too much reliance on hooks like it is now so yes it has been absent in the "Mainstream"



Trap this and trap that, there is more to rap than trap shyt.

Lol afro's fans in this thread are the ones bringing up trap to begin with. Y'all want to say he makes better music than them by default but the reality is he is musically disabled compared to the majority of them when it comes to songwriting and conveying emotion.

Ive listened to all of the same music that AFRO is clearly influenced by, and that is exactly why he doesn't impress me as a rapper.

 

[BOXINGGEMS]

Lyricism was actually more mainstream back then with not too much reliance on hooks like it is now so yes it has been absent in the "Mainstream"



Trap this and trap that, there is more to rap than trap shyt.

I wasn't talking about lyricism because that's relative. Not everyone means the same thing when they say someone is lyrical. Kendrick, Drake and Cole are all lyrical in many people eyes. Jay Z was/is lyrical, so was Eminem, OutKast, Nas, Common, Lil Wayne, etc are all 'lyrical'. I can go on and on. So that's just not a true statement for many. Great writers will always be at the top of hip hop.

What it seems like you're referring to is a very niche, particular type of writing style. Which again is not, and never will be popular. Lil Wayne is not 'hook reliant'. Neither is Common or Nas. Too many examples to name.

My analysis still remains, as an artist people have to relate to what you're saying or you have to invoke emotion. He does neither well right now. He's just an impressive talent.

 

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Lol afro's fans in this thread are the ones bringing up trap to begin with. Y'all want to say he makes better music than them by default but the reality is he is musically disabled compared to the majority of them when it comes to songwriting and conveying emotion.

Ive listened to all of the same music that AFRO is clearly influenced by, and that is exactly why he doesn't impress me as a rapper.

I used the word "variety"

Dont get all of us mixed up buddy

I wasn't talking about lyricism because that's relative. Not everyone means the same thing when they say someone is lyrical. Kendrick, Drake and Cole are all lyrical in many people eyes. Jay Z was/is lyrical, so was Eminem, OutKast, Nas, Common, Lil Wayne, etc are all 'lyrical'. I can go on and on. So that's just not a true statement for many. Great writers will always be at the top of hip hop.

What it seems like you're referring to is a very niche, particular type of writing style. Which again is not, and never will be popular. Lil Wayne is not 'hook reliant'. Neither is Common or Nas. Too many examples to name.

My analysis still remains, as an artist people have to relate to what you're saying or you have to invoke emotion. He does neither well right now. He's just an impressive talent.

What I referring to is a type of style done by Future, Migos that has been done to death. Mainstream rap needs more variety.

When most of these rappers of today sound like:


Then it gets boring and lame.

 

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Here is another example of the style that most rappers do to death but with harsher criticism

Song Starts at 27

 

[Nobodyknows]

At this point I disagree with that. Young Thug is far more creative as far as delivery, far more streamlined in terms of making a cohesive song, more complex in terms of rhythm and is able to convey real emotion. Future has more emotion in his delivery and can write a lyrically cohesive song with an actual center. He writes songs for a specific purpose and audience, i.e. he can write a song aimed at the streets, the club or himself.

This dude Afro is mimicking his childhood heroes but doesn't have a voice of his own. It's impossible to know where he's coming from on a song like "infantry" because it was written without a point and definitely without emotion.

Future and YT has emotion
Future's lyrically cohesive

The only thing they're good for is bangers.
AFRO's doing something that hasn't been done in over a decade. YT and Future are on the "hot" bandwagon which has been on for a while now.
Future's what, like 32 now? This kid's 18 and I personally see a GOAT in the making. He definetly has the potential.
You think Future or Young thug will be remembered or considered anything more than an of the moment rapper? How many people remember MOP for example? They had a few hot tracks a while ago and now no one checks for them

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Future and YT has emotion
Future's lyrically cohesive

The only thing they're good for is bangers.
AFRO's doing something that hasn't been done in over a decade. YT and Future are on the "hot" bandwagon which has been on for a while now.
Future's what, like 32 now? This kid's 18 and I personally see a GOAT in the making. He definetly has the potential.
You think Future or Young thug will be remembered or considered anything more than an of the moment rapper? How many people remember MOP for example? They had a few hot tracks a while ago and now no one checks for them

Future been around longer than "a moment" at this point, the reason why he bounced back is because he's making better music these days. If you don't hear the intention of atmosphere or the emotion behind a song like "Lil One" or "colossus", you're not actually listening.

Emotion is as much what the listener feels as it is what the rapper conveys. You don't feel amped after hearing a track like "2 cups stuffed"? You don't feel his energy on the track? You don't feel the raw emotion of a track like "od"? I doubt you ever took the time to actually listen to either thug or future.

 

[Nobodyknows]

Future been around longer than "a moment" at this point, the reason why he bounced back is because he's making better music these days. If you don't hear the intention of atmosphere or the emotion behind a song like "Lil One" or "colossus", you're not actually listening.

Emotion is as much what the listener feels as it is what the rapper conveys. You don't feel amped after hearing a track like "2 cups stuffed"? You don't feel his energy on the track? You don't feel the raw emotion of a track like "od"? I doubt you ever took the time to actually listen to either thug or future.

I actually took the time to listen to them. shyt, I even downloaded DS2 to see what the hype was about. I deleted that shyt after the third track.