A lawyer has tracked down 817 serial rapists in one county; 50 of them had raped 10 to 15 times

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You know exactly what I mean. Stop hiding behind smileys. This is why this place is a joke now. You can't have any sort of discussion without insults or stupid smiley responses. I didn't say anything outrageous like the concept of rape culture was spread by the green Reptilian elite. I said the term rape is used far too lightly these days. And it is. I've seen men labeled as rapists or rape apologists for saying they will tell their daughters to dress and act appropriately in situations where the potential for predators is increased.
 

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Q: That's something we look for in certain victims — when the victim is a teenage boy of color, or a woman who has been raped, we want them to be perfect. They can't have had a drink or have worked as a prostitute, and if they have, there's a mindset that makes them almost ineligible to be a victim.

A: One of the reasons we have these untested rape kits ... and I can use Detroit as an example, 86% of our victims in these untested kits are people of color. You're not going to find too many blond-haired, blue eyed white women ... Because their kits are treated differently, their cases are solved. That's just the way it is in this country. If you're a person of color, if you're a different economic class, then your case across the board, across the board, not just sexual assault — they're treated differently. And that's just the truth. People may not want to admit it, but I've seen it throughout my career and I know it's true ... It's just true. ... Race is at the center of this in many ways as well, unfortunately, we know that across the criminal justice system."



That doesn't seem to me like rape culture, that to me sounds more like discrimination, racism, etc. I mean, they've accepted rape is wrong for white women. They didn't say it was good for others, they just dismissed them and didn't care or didn't beleive them.

so how can you have a culture that accepts rape and does these behaviors for some but not all? maybe its something else????


:hubie: that's the way it comes off to me. if anyone else wants to clarify it for me, then by all means... I'm listening.

What based on the original article gives you the idea that this is accurate? "You're not going to find too many blond-haired, blue eyed white women ... Because their kits are treated differently, their cases are solved."

Yes, we all know that people of color will be disproportionately treated unfairly by the justice system. That doesn't mean that white victims of rape will be treated WELL. The baseline here is thousands of rape kits abandoned in a warehouse, "better" than that is still a long way from treating white victims of rape fairly/justly.
 

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You know exactly what I mean. Stop hiding behind smileys. This is why this place is a joke now. You can't have any sort of discussion without insults or stupid smiley responses. I didn't say anything outrageous like the concept of rape culture was spread by the green Reptilian elite. I said the term rape is used far too lightly these days. And it is. I've seen men labeled as rapists or rape apologists for saying they will tell their daughters to dress and act appropriately in situations where the potential for predators is increased.
I know what you mean and it's complete bullshyt. People aren't routinely misunderstanding what it means by rape and everyone knows what it means to rape someone.

False rape makes up 3 percent of all cases. More rapes are under reported because people fear their cases won't be taken seriously because they aren't what a LEO decides to take seriously. But instead of focusing on that you want to conjure up a false narrative about rape being over used with no evidence to back it up.

Here we are, with an example of 800 serial rapists in a single county, but the notion that rape culture has fostered this level of rape is preposterous.

Isn't discriminating on victims based on their sex, race, gender, income, profession etc, something you already admitted not the very definition of rape culture?

Stop dancing around it.

But to me, it seems like you are arguing against rape culture because you actively engage in it.
 

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I know what you mean and it's complete bullshyt. People aren't routinely misunderstanding what it means by rape and everyone knows what it means to rape someone.[/b]

No, they don't.

False rape makes up 3 percent of all cases. More rapes are under reported because people fear their cases won't be taken seriously because they aren't what a LEO decides to take seriously. But instead of focusing on that you want to conjure up a false narrative about rape being over used with no evidence to back it up.

Nah I'm not.

Here we are, with an example of 800 serial rapists in a single county, but the notion that rape culture has fostered this level of rape is preposterous.

800 serial rapists in a country of 350 million.

Isn't discriminating on victims based on their sex, race, gender, income, profession etc, something you already admitted not the very definition of rape culture?

How can I take you seriously when you don't even know who you're replying to anymore?

Stop dancing around it.

Dancing around what? Are you pulling internet debate cliches out of your ass now?

But to me, it seems like you are arguing against rape culture because you actively engage in it.

To me it seems like you're proving my point by using the term rape lightly. You're saying that I'm participating in rape culture, meaning normalizing and tacitly agreeing to a culture of rape. And you get this from a response on a message board. You're not worth my time.
 

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What based on the original article gives you the idea that this is accurate? "You're not going to find too many blond-haired, blue eyed white women ... Because their kits are treated differently, their cases are solved."

Yes, we all know that people of color will be disproportionately treated unfairly by the justice system. That doesn't mean that white victims of rape will be treated WELL. The baseline here is thousands of rape kits abandoned in a warehouse, "better" than that is still a long way from treating white victims of rape fairly/justly.
Rape culture though?

THAT is what the question is.
 

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Martial rape wasn't a crime in this country until the 70s.
And?

How does that prove we live in a rape culture now?

Either you guys are being real loose with that term, or you are just saying it just to argue, but I still haven’t seen anything that proves we live in a society that diminishes or even approves of rape by any means.
 

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What do you consider rape culture?
The system in place (academia, law, sports) that undermines or makes it harder for a victim of abuse to get justice.

We're doing better now than before obviously, but to say the entire system has been fixed is naive. If you don't want to use the term rape culture because of the Tumblr-esque implications that's fine. To deny the advantages of being a man (with or without power) is ridiculous.
 

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The system in place (academia, law, sports) that undermines or makes it harder for a victim of abuse to get justice.

We're doing better now than before obviously, but to say the entire system has been fixed is naive. If you don't want to use the term rape culture because of the Tumblr-esque implications that's fine. To deny the advantages of being a man (with or without power) is ridiculous.
Wait.....
You need to clarify that last sentence, cuz I fail to see how that is related to rape culture.


And TBH, I fail to see how (in 2018, NOT historically) that men have so many more advantages than women.
 
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Academia ruins the discourse it's supposed to open.
Flawed theories and concepts sound good during feedback loop lectures with agreeable parties. In the real world, everybody won't agree to consensus delusion.
Look at the hegelian move:
Problem "rape culture"
Reaction "3rd wave feminist Renaissance"
Solution "Male cultural policing/White Female hyperagency"

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Going by the thread title I thought some nygga went vigilante on some perverts and yall in here arguing lol
The plot on the back of the cover was misleading!
 
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