AAVE is as complex as Standard American English

[Asicz]

I come from upper echelon servants. My grandmother was high up in the maid hierarchy, I guess, and my grandfather was a fancy chef. He cooked for all kinda old Harlem gangsters (including the Jewish ones- he cooked kosher when necc.), etc. So their children present as 'classier'. People be thinking I was born to money- no, we're just money-adjacent, but it does effect language usage.

That is very interesting.

Have you checked out US census records for relatives from 1940 and 1950 and prior? I am learning a little bit about my relatives from those records online through Heritage Quest. It shows info about their age, occupations,living arrangements, neighbors etc. A litlle bit of black life in general back then.

Has anyone else checked out the old US Census records for their relatives?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

What are you talking about here??? It IS a dialect, it's our own.

Please read the following. You skipped past it last time.....​

We don't speak 'Standard English'. We speak 'American', an amalgamation of various languages, dialects and idioms from various places throughout Europe, Africa, South/Central America, and the Caribbean/West Indies.

You know. All the places our ancestors were brought from/to when they were kidnapped.​

 

[Asicz]

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Learning Latin changed my life, real shyt. I could actually see in real life how AAVE augments SAE by filling in blanks.

It seems to me like sometimes AAVE is more efficient in communicating what someone wants to say.

 

[Asicz]

The Twitter thread had showed how some users started to learn English as a second language through Hip Hop albums.
I also saw a bit about an actor who said he learned English at first through a Tupac album.

 

[Deuterion]

Learning Latin changed my life, real shyt. I could actually see in real life how AAVE augments SAE by filling in blanks.

Yup! I don’t know all the particulars but I know that it takes a lot of the rigidity out of SAE and makes it fluid like the modern day Latin languages (romance). Going from SAE to any of the modern day Latin languages is like:



Latin languages are very smooth and easy to speak. It’s very easy to transition between the words phonetically...it’s hard to explain since I’m not a linguist but here’s an example.

I’m going to the store to buy something to eat.

Voy a la tienda para comprar algo de comer.

The SAE is very choppy sounding and I think it has to do with the mouth and tongue movements while the Spanish just flows so beautifully. AAVE removes a lot of this rigidity IMO...

I’m goin’ da sto’ to buy sut’n ta eat.

It looks weird AF written but when spoken it flows a lot better than SAE. I also know grammatically AAVE plugs in some of the gaps that SAE has when communicating but I don’t know how to explain it.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Yup! I don’t know all the particulars but I know that it takes a lot of the rigidity out of SAE and makes it fluid like the modern day Latin languages (romance). Going from SAE to any of the modern day Latin languages is like:



Latin languages are very smooth and easy to speak. It’s very easy to transition between the words phonetically...it’s hard to explain since I’m not a linguist but here’s an example.

I’m going to the store to buy something to eat.

Voy a la tienda para comprar algo de comer.

The SAE is very choppy sounding and I think it has to do with the mouth and tongue movements while the Spanish just flows so beautifully. AAVE removes a lot of this rigidity IMO...

I’m goin’ da sto’ to buy sut’n ta eat.

It looks weird AF written but when spoken it flows a lot better than SAE. I also know grammatically AAVE plugs in some of the gaps that SAE has when communicating but I don’t know how to explain it.

YES!! YOU GET IT!!

English itself is a trade language, a mix of Romance and proto-Germanic, born of the Anglo Saxon and Norman invasions. It's unwieldy. It was never meant to be used as a primary language. We've softened the edges, made it more palatable.

 

[Asajj Ventress]

AAVE sounds like the way that back water hillbillies talk like. It sounds retarded when they do it and it sounds retarded when we do it.

 

[Deuterion]

AAVE sounds like the way that back water hillbillies talk like. It sounds retarded when they do it and it sounds retarded when we do it.

AAVE sounds like the way that back water hillbillies talk like. It sounds retarded when they do it and it sounds retarded when we do it.

You sound retarded.

 

[invalid]

It doesn't surprise me at all considering tha amount of softshoeing & assimilating tha boule did (and does) to appease to cac sensibilities so they can acquire some show off money & put on airs. There's playing tha game for resources and i understand that to a certain extent but when you're so deep in tha game tht you internalize tha prejudices and stereotypes levied toward you by cacs, have a crisis of identity and forget what's important then i can't fukk with that. Ppl more worried about 'acting ******ish' then helping they own, tha so called '******s' they look down on. All for what? As if cacs are tha golden standard to strive towards. That's not respectable or solid.

I can agree.

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

The beginning of the study of AAVE
Dr. William Labov, creolist, sociolinguist, and professor at University of Pennsylvania, has spent his career studying linguistic change, starting with AAVE. It began in Manhattan, in a 1962 study that had him lurking through department stores across town, anonymously scribbling salespeople’s answers to his questions once he was out of their view. Oh, the things we do for science.

What a bunch of bullshyt. White people steal credit for everything.

This is the father.

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

That is very interesting.

Have you checked out US census records for relatives from 1940 and 1950 and prior? I am learning a little bit about my relatives from those records online through Heritage Quest. It shows info about their age, occupations,living arrangements, neighbors etc. A litlle bit of black life in general back then.

Has anyone else checked out the old US Census records for their relatives?

What stood out to me were the salaries. How our people survived on such meager incomes in comparison to their white counterparts for the same job.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Don't know WHY people are hating on this when this in fact debunk long lasting racists myths.

Because the haters are some of those smart dumb nikkas who think our language was 100% stripped from us when we were kidnapped over here.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

It actually occurred to me the other day while listening to a song that bruh said a whole line no one would understand if they weren’t familiar with aave







It was beautiful

What’s the song?

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

really is complex as fukk

theres terms used by the entire population
then u have terms different by city
then u have terms that mean different things city by city we really got our own shyt

gets spooky when u let white people in
random white girl: DO U KNOW WHAT THOT MEANS

Facts. Our language is just beautiful This thread finna be lit like shyt

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

fukk this wack ass language

nikkas is way too proud to know some damn English

Y’all da same negroes be giddy den a bytch to be wearing your slave daddy last name too

Ol “I’m a proud Williams!”, ass nikkas.

Smh

Goofy ass c00n.