Adam Silver: NBA might eliminate division winners

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NBA has been doing fine with this format though.

I'm with @Brozay though. I dont like the realignment of the best 16 in the league. If you do that then whats the point of conferences? Every tam should then face each other an equal amount of times to make it fair. Too much realignment.
preach. The Bottomline is the front offices in the east along with ownership need to do better.
 

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I think people are being shortsighted in terms of how it will diminish the playoff races and the aspects conferences bring (even if they have been diminished somewhat in recent years)

There are still going to be lopsided matchups even if you do the 16 team realignment... I dont think its worth sacrificing conferences(which breed rivalries, even if they have tailed off - but lets see how Hawks/Wiz look next season, or think about how much we would miss Bulls/Cavs and what is building there, or how the Bulls/Bucks might keep escalating, even Boston/CLE if the Celtics develop etc., etc., etc.)

Now instead of having two separate conferences with handfuls of teams in both conferences fighting for 7, 8 seeds, you will have 2-3 teams fighting for 15, 16. It will take away from the regular season even more IMO.

Outside of those respective cities, who really cared about the Nets/Pacers/Celtics battle this year breh? We all knew they were gonna be food anyway. You can't compare making the playoffs in the NBA to other sports because in other sports everybody who gets in has a legit chance whereas you pretty much know NBA teams that get in on the last day are only gonna play another week and a half and that's it. The playoffs and regular season are both diminished by having 16 of 30 teams make it in and by force feeding 35 win teams into the mix. Star power breeds rivalries. Kobe/Bron has been the biggest rivalry in the league the last decade and they have never faced each other in the playoffs.


Travel is going to have to be considered in these considerations. Conferences will likely still stand but realignment needs to happen.

You already have travel issues within each respective conference. Toronto/Florida, Portland and Texas, Cali and Minny, Memphis, NO.


That's stupid. What would be the point of playing one team 4 times and another 3 and another 2?

Regular season scheduling. It doesn't make sense to have squads flying back and forth across the country all season. You play who is close to you during the season and then you play who ever earns the spot in the playoffs. I am not seeing what is so hard to grasp here.

NBA has been doing fine with this format though.

I'm with @Brozay though. I dont like the realignment of the best 16 in the league. If you do that then whats the point of conferences? Every tam should then face each other an equal amount of times to make it fair. Too much realignment.

You are right, what is the point of conferences? What is fair about a 46 win team in the east cruising towards the finish line and cutting minutes back to get ready for the playoffs while teams with comparable records out west are fighting tooth and nail just to get in? You have 30 teams and 82 games how can you realistically have them all play each other an equal number of times and beyond that what would really be the point? The fact is everybody is playing NBA comp every night and over the course of 82 games it will pretty much even out and if not it will even out when you match up everybody 1-16 based strictly on how they performed against NBA comp rather than where they happen to be located.
 
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Top 16 teams....fukk a conference
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Won't happen. Its all about ratings. Let's say its a Clippers/Rockets final. The casuals from the east coast won't be watching. Ratings is all about the casuals. I too want to get rid of the conference and even out the playing field with each team playing 58 games, vs every team at home and away. Yes its less games but much more fair. Eastern Conference has been shyt for 10 years.
 
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No need to shakeup conferences, i have come up with a perfect solution on the NBA and the scheduling issue. With this new format you keep divisions (for scheduling purposes) and have the top 16 teams regardless of conferences, divisions, etc. make the playoffs.

So in this model i shortened the schedule by 6 to a 76 game schedule (the players will be all for this) and the frequency in which you play teams changes as well.

Here's the breakdown

76 game schedule
16 games (2H, 2A) against the other 4 teams in your division (Same as today)
20 games (2H, 2A) against the other 5 teams who finished where you finished at in your division (this is what the NFL does for inter conference scheduling)
40 games (1H, 1A) against the remaining 20 teams in the NBA

Chicago Bulls projected schedule under this format
Cavs X 4
Bucks X 4
Pacers X 4
Pistons X 4
Celtics X 4
Wizards X 4
Clippers X 4
Grizzlies X 4
Thunder X 4

Raptors X 2
Nets X 2
Sixers X 2
Knicks X 2
Hawks X 2
Heat X 2
Hornets X 2
Magic X 2
Warriors X 2
Suns X 2
Kings X 2
Lakers X 2
Rockets X 2
Spurs X 2
Mavericks X 2
Pelicans X 2
Blazers X 2
Jazz X 2
Nuggets X 2
Timberwolves X 2


This should be the approach the NBA looks at. This will decrease amount of games played which will make players fresher and will alleviate bad travel schedules.
Under this format you can scale back on the number of back to backs teams play as you have more wiggle room in the schedule.

@Malta @FTBS @Brozay @3Rivers tremont what do yall think.

I really can't think of any cons except strength of schedule, but the best teams will always face the best comp. Plus it shakes up scheduling and can create new rivalries as well.
 

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For starters, owners ain't takin no shorts :mjlol:. I don't care if it is 3 games.

I'm not sure how feasible having 4 inter-conference games would be from a logistics standpoint, especially if you are trying to lighten the travel load. You really don't need to change the regular season scheduling. You can keep divisions for that purpose only and then go straight 1-16 come playoff time.
 

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No need to shakeup conferences, i have come up with a perfect solution on the NBA and the scheduling issue. With this new format you keep divisions (for scheduling purposes) and have the top 16 teams regardless of conferences, divisions, etc. make the playoffs.
So in this model i shortened the schedule by 6 to a 76 game schedule (the players will be all for this) and the frequency in which you play teams changes as well.
Here's the breakdown

76 game schedule
16 games (2H, 2A) against the other 4 teams in your division (Same as today)
20 games (2H, 2A) against the other 5 teams who finished where you finished at in your division (this is what the NFL does for inter conference scheduling)
40 games (1H, 1A) against the remaining 20 teams in the NBA

Chicago Bulls projected schedule under this format
Cavs X 4
Bucks X 4
Pacers X 4
Pistons X 4
Celtics X 4
Wizards X 4
Clippers X 4
Grizzlies X 4
Thunder X 4

Raptors X 2
Nets X 2
Sixers X 2
Knicks X 2
Hawks X 2
Heat X 2
Hornets X 2
Magic X 2
Warriors X 2
Suns X 2
Kings X 2
Lakers X 2
Rockets X 2
Spurs X 2
Mavericks X 2
Pelicans X 2
Blazers X 2
Jazz X 2
Nuggets X 2
Timberwolves X 2


This should be the approach the NBA looks at. This will decrease amount of games played which will make players fresher and will alleviate bad travel schedules.
Under this format you can scale back on the number of back to backs teams play as you have more wiggle room in the schedule.

@Malta @FTBS @Brozay @3Rivers tremont what do yall think.

I really can't think of any cons except strength of schedule, but the best teams will always face the best comp. Plus it shakes up scheduling and can create new rivalries as well.
The cons are obvious! If you are tring to "level" this imaginary uneven plaing field, all the teams need to face each other an equal amount of times
 

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that's a dumb idea....no need to get rid of division winners...just go back to 4 divisions like it used to be, and they need to realign, but it's gonna be hard unless a team from the east (the bucks) moves to sea....also, change the 1st round back to 5 games, but missing out on money cause of a high seed going down scares them too much to go back to that I think....

also, yall tripping with this get rid of conferences talk cause of how the east is....that shyt aint happening for many reasons, the main one being money.....they would lose out on money by potentially alienating parts of the country, which is something they aint gonna do......also, a lot of yall are forgetting the roles used to be reversed: the west used to be shytty, while the east had better teams....it was like that for years.....there was no talk about getting rid of conferences then....yall gotta understand the shyt goes in cycles....eventually the east is gonna be the dominate conference while the west is playing catch up....as long as it's 2 good teams in the finals, no one cares....
 

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The cons are obvious! If you are tring to "level" this imaginary uneven plaing field, all the teams need to face each other an equal amount of times


It's impossible for every team to face eachother an equal amount of times and have anything close to an 82 game schedule

30 teams = 1 team plays the 29 other teams 4 times = 116 games

You can't play them 3 because 1 team will have to play another twice on the road and once at home.

you can't play twice because that's a 58 game schedule that owners aren't going for
 

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that's a dumb idea....no need to get rid of division winners...just go back to 4 divisions like it used to be, and they need to realign, but it's gonna be hard unless a team from the east (the bucks) moves to sea....also, change the 1st round back to 5 games, but missing out on money cause of a high seed going down scares them too much to go back to that I think....

also, yall tripping with this get rid of conferences talk cause of how the east is....that shyt aint happening for many reasons, the main one being money.....they would lose out on money by potentially alienating parts of the country, which is something they aint gonna do......also, a lot of yall are forgetting the roles used to be reversed: the west used to be shytty, while the east had better teams....it was like that for years.....there was no talk about getting rid of conferences then....yall gotta understand the shyt goes in cycles....eventually the east is gonna be the dominate conference while the west is playing catch up....as long as it's 2 good teams in the finals, no one cares....

Why do people constantly trot this nonsense out? :mindblown:. So because shyt has been uneven in the opposite direction and likely will again one day we shouldn't do something that will make things more fair regardless of which conference is superior? :wtf:

You got 16 out of 30 teams making the playoffs. If you get alienated then you damn well deserve it.
 

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Why do people constantly trot this nonsense out? :mindblown:. So because shyt has been uneven in the opposite direction and likely will again one day we shouldn't do something that will make things more fair regardless of which conference is superior? :wtf:

You got 16 out of 30 teams making the playoffs. If you get alienated then you damn well deserve it.

the reason i brought it up is to show it's not a viable option when people scream that get rid of conference shyt....if they didnt do the shyt when it was like that before, why would they do it now?.....alienating your potential viewership base is never an option....which could happen if 2 teams from the same region/coast make the finals....

anyway, speaking of fair, how is getting rid of conferences gonna make shyt fair? are all teams gonna play the others an equal amount of times?...if not, that shyt aint fair....

....they can improve the setup of the conferences, but getting rid of it all together aint gonna happen, so people need to stop acting like it will....
 
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