Adam Silver on ending one-and-done rule, If super teams are a problem

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Kwame brown,eddy curry,tyson chandler(adequate role player),kedrick brown,desagna diop were picked in the top 11 in the 2001 draft. For every lebron and kobe there's 10-15 of these bum ass nikkas.Straight to high school players are wastes outside a few exceptions, go to college and come out somewhat polished like jordan,bird,magic,kareem,duncan,ewing,webber,grant hill,penny,shaq etc.It's better for the nba than playing bums in the d league or sitting on the bench or averaging 3 ppg in 9 mins

You do realize that the Jordans, Birds & Magic's and others that stayed in college for 3 or 4 years are exceptions too right?
 

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Absolutely not. The league has been ran by prep-to-pro and one and done players for the last 20 years. Nothing prepares you for the NBA better than the NBA, the fact that you nikkas support the exploitive ass NCAA is comical. I don't want to wait extra years to see clear NBA phenoms like KAT, Melo, KD, Wiggins, Jabari, D-Rose, Wall get into the league.

The last thing you want is a generational talent blowing out his knee in his sophomore year of college because the NBA wouldn't let him go one-and-done. What if Coach Cal didn't allow DaJuan Wagner to get his money and leave Memphis? I'm surprised he let Hamidou Diallo come back.

Stop it, I'm hoping the NBA Gatorade League as they are calling it now blows up even further, there's a lot of talent there.
 
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The HS to pro players were very successful, there was a study done on them and they were generally more productive than the college players drafted at the same time.

Can you link this study?

Then blame the GM's for taking those that become busts. It's a risk a team may or may not take. There is literally NO reason that adults should not be allowed to be drafted if a team deems they are worthy. This is just another terrible rule the NBA has that leagues with common sense would not have. And, don't compare this to the NFL as it's a completely different sports where an 18 year old is almost never going to be physically ready.

Mlb has a minor league system that develops players(straight from high school or college) and they have to thrive to be promoted.There's literally levels to it,nba has the d league where a chunk of the nba teams don't have d league affiliates so they can either dominate majority of cats who aren't as good as them in the d league or sit on the bench and contribute nothin in the nba.Go to college and get physically ready and work on your skills. I think college players should get paid too.
 

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Kwame brown,eddy curry,tyson chandler(adequate role player),kedrick brown,desagna diop were picked in the top 11 in the 2001 draft. For every lebron and kobe there's 10-15 of these bum ass nikkas.Straight to high school players are wastes outside a few exceptions, go to college and come out somewhat polished like jordan,bird,magic,kareem,duncan,ewing,webber,grant hill,penny,shaq etc.It's better for the nba than playing bums in the d league or sitting on the bench or averaging 3 ppg in 9 mins


The last HS draft class -

No. 6 - Martell Webster
No. 10 - Andrew Bynum
No. 18 - Gerald Green
No. 34 - CJ Miles
No. 40 - Monta Ellis
No. 45 - Lou Williams
No. 49 - Andray Blatche
No. 56 - Amir Johnson


5 of the 8 are still playing today, Webster/Bynum were done in by injuries and Blatche was talented but dumb as rocks. The numbers on the HS to Pro players were excellent, some teams whiffed and they did go overboard with it in 2001 but they had started to dial that back and got better at scouting the kids.


After the 2001 class you're talking about we got Dwight, LeBron, Amare, JR / Josh Smith, the guys listed here, Al Jefferson. The teams got better and more shrewd with where HS players were drafted.
 

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Kwame brown,eddy curry,tyson chandler(adequate role player),kedrick brown,desagna diop were picked in the top 11 in the 2001 draft. For every lebron and kobe there's 10-15 of these bum ass nikkas.Straight to high school players are wastes outside a few exceptions, go to college and come out somewhat polished like jordan,bird,magic,kareem,duncan,ewing,webber,grant hill,penny,shaq etc.It's better for the nba than playing bums in the d league or sitting on the bench or averaging 3 ppg in 9 mins
Enlighten me on how college would benefit any of those players or make them any better. How is college better preparing you for the NBA than the actual NBA? For every Duncan and Hill, there are ton of players who didn't pan out after 3-4 years of college.

Tyson Chandler won DPoY, made an All-Star team, made an All-NBA team, won Olympic gold, won a NBA title and set the precedent for uber athletic lob catching, rim protecting bigs we have today like DeAndre Jordan and Rudy Gobert. I would say he's more than just an adequate role player.
 
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Kwame brown,eddy curry,tyson chandler(adequate role player),kedrick brown,desagna diop were picked in the top 11 in the 2001 draft. For every lebron and kobe there's 10-15 of these bum ass nikkas.Straight to high school players are wastes outside a few exceptions, go to college and come out somewhat polished like jordan,bird,magic,kareem,duncan,ewing,webber,grant hill,penny,shaq etc.It's better for the nba than playing bums in the d league or sitting on the bench or averaging 3 ppg in 9 mins

NBA high school draftees - Wikipedia

KG
Kobe
Jermaine O'Neal
T Mac
Al Harrington
Rashard Lewis
Amare
Bron
Dwight
Al Jefferson
Josh Smith
Monta Ellis

Then you got guys that were drafted outside the lottery and the 2nd round that had solid careers.

JR Smith
Deshawn Stevenson
Travis Outlaw
Kendrick Perkins
Gerald Green
CJ Miles
Andray Blatche
 

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You do realize that the Jordans, Birds & Magic's and others that stayed in college for 3 or 4 years are exceptions too right?

:jbhmm:

Alonzo mourning
Dwayne Wade
Iverson
Jason Kidd
Larry Johnson
derrick coleman
reggie miller
Charles barkley
etc
etc

I can name college players who stayed at least 2-3 years for decades who were good to great nba players.High school cats list aint that deep
 

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Can you link this study?


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The Effect of Early Entry to the NBA
 

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Alonzo mourning
Dwayne Wade
Iverson
Jason Kidd
Larry Johnson
derrick coleman
reggie miller
Charles barkley
etc
etc

I can name college players who stayed at least 2-3 years for decades who were good to great nba players.High school cats list aint that deep


You have to take into the changing landscape of the feeder system leading into college basketball, HS basketball is a lot different today than it was when those guys were coming up, and someone like Wade needed college in general as he wasn't a top 50 recruit. Also we're seeing a decline in American players coming out of the draft, maybe that has to do with college maybe it doesn't but if the NBA had their option they'd rather get their hands on American kids for development sooner rather than later. Last year almost half the players drafted were international, their games are more advanced at a younger age in terms of fundamentals than Americans now, that would be different if the 17-18 year old American was working on his game with pros and professional trainers like the Internationals are at that age.
 

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They should just let the top HS prospects test the waters as they do for college players now. Then you don't get left with the excuses made because a team can't scout properly.
 

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Absolutely not. The league has been ran by prep-to-pro and one and done players for the last 20 years. Nothing prepares you for the NBA better than the NBA, the fact that you nikkas support the exploitive ass NCAA is comical. I don't want to wait extra years to see clear NBA phenoms like KAT, Melo, KD, Wiggins, Jabari, D-Rose, Wall get into the league.

The last thing you want is a generational talent blowing out his knee in his sophomore year of college because the NBA wouldn't let him go one-and-done. What if Coach Cal didn't allow DaJuan Wagner to get his money and leave Memphis? I'm surprised he let Hamidou Diallo come back.

Stop it, I'm hoping the NBA Gatorade League as they are calling it now blows up even further, there's a lot of talent there.



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