Adam Silver on ending one-and-done rule, If super teams are a problem

[VICVALLIN]

Let the free market decide if a 18 year old legal adult is ready to play any pro sport. Basketball, football, hockey, whatever. If somebody is willing to draft or pick up in free agency, sign, and develop a young players talent, then I say let them.

 

[SadimirPutin]

No they shouldn't

Players should come to the league whenever they want.

College basketball is not about preparing for the NBA. It's about winning college basketball games.

So?

i'm saying

the nba and NCAA are two completely different entities...why the fukk should the NBA craft its policy for the benefit of the NCAA...when that benefit is based on the free labor of athletes....

College basketball is a fukking eyesore and in no way prepares an athlete for the rigors and schedule of the nba...PLAYING NBA BASKETBALL DOES THAT.

you might as well spend that extra time in the nba getting productive reps......

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

i'm saying

the nba and NCAA are two completely different entities...why the fukk should the NBA craft its policy for the benefit of the NCAA...when that benefit is based on the free labor of athletes....

College basketball is a fukking eyesore and in no way prepares an athlete for the rigors and schedule of the nba...PLAYING NBA BASKETBALL DOES THAT.

you might as well spend that extra time in the nba getting productive reps......

That's absolutely wrong tho

More great players went to college for more than one year than straight to the NBA or one and done. And considering that the one and done rule isn't even 10 years old, it shouldn't be that way if coming out of high school was the shyt

Being in college lets you play against better comp while learning from better coaches gradually. Instead of being dumped into the NBA, playing against the best, immediately being deemed a scrub, and never going anywhere.

Just look at the last few drafts. How many came out after freshmen year? How many are really doing good out here and not just scrub role players?

It's better for the NBA to let stars become college stars. Win consistent for a few years and get their name in people's mouth. Actually make college ball look better cause more better players in it. And then bring in drafts with 5-6 valid stars every year and 1-2 hall of famers

 

[SadimirPutin]

That's absolutely wrong tho

More great players went to college for more than one year than straight to the NBA or one and done. And considering that the one and done rule isn't even 10 years old, it shouldn't be that way if coming out of high school was the shyt

Being in college lets you play against better comp while learning from better coaches gradually. Instead of being dumped into the NBA, playing against the best, immediately being deemed a scrub, and never going anywhere.

Just look at the last few drafts. How many came out after freshmen year? How many are really doing good out here and not just scrub role players?

It's better for the NBA to let stars become college stars. Win consistent for a few years and get their name in people's mouth. Actually make college ball look better cause more better players in it. And then bring in drafts with 5-6 valid stars every year and 1-2 hall of famers

being in college lets you play for zero money, risk injury and your scholarship based on the whims of a coach who doesnt give a fukk about you for a school that gives even less of a fukk

nba style of play is sufficiently different to college bball that staying in college will not "make you better".....

anybody advocating for extending unpaid playing time for professional athletes is an immediate raised eyebrow for me

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

being in college lets you play for zero money, risk injury and your scholarship based on the whims of a coach who doesnt give a fukk about you for a school that gives even less of a fukk

nba style of play is sufficiently different to college bball that staying in college will not "make you better".....

anybody advocating for extending unpaid playing time for professional athletes is an immediate raised eyebrow for me

yes we understand you can be injured... of course no sane person in the world would say take zero money over nba contracts

that's not what is being argued though.

would the nba AND college be better, if every single player who thought he was the shyt, could skip college? NO

we witnessed it... for every lebron james, there was literally decades full of great players, who could have done the exact same thing, but went to college for multiple years


for every kobe.. we got a shytload of bum ass nikkas coming out of high school who never amounted to shyt



the one and done rule has been here since 2006.... you couldn't name one draft class that was great as one i could pick from before then

why? cause these nikkas is going to college, THINK they gonna be stars... half ass it in college, barely winning shyt, no sense of team cause they all leaving and just stat padding for high placement... then go to the nba and suck it up



so from a player standpoint... yes... go to the nba fast as you can



from a company standpoint... the nba don't want all these bum ass nikkas, with little to no experience of anything but high school ball, using their PROFESSIONAL league, to practice and get better, while they trying to sell your bullshyt skillset to a network for a few hundred million

so again... it's in their best interests to let you gain a name in college for a few years... or fizzle out so they don't have to worry about your bum ass.... and then bring over the best of the best, who could sustain that greatness for multiple years, over the best of the best in college... before you come to the nba at 19... we find out you suck by 21... and we stuck watching your sorry ass, cause you got a contract

 

[FaTaL]

yes we understand you can be injured... of course no sane person in the world would say take zero money over nba contracts

that's not what is being argued though.

would the nba AND college be better, if every single player who thought he was the shyt, could skip college? NO

we witnessed it... for every lebron james, there was literally decades full of great players, who could have done the exact same thing, but went to college for multiple years


for every kobe.. we got a shytload of bum ass nikkas coming out of high school who never amounted to shyt



the one and done rule has been here since 2006.... you couldn't name one draft class that was great as one i could pick from before then

why? cause these nikkas is going to college, THINK they gonna be stars... half ass it in college, barely winning shyt, no sense of team cause they all leaving and just stat padding for high placement... then go to the nba and suck it up



so from a player standpoint... yes... go to the nba fast as you can



from a company standpoint... the nba don't want all these bum ass nikkas, with little to no experience of anything but high school ball, using their PROFESSIONAL league, to practice and get better, while they trying to sell your bullshyt skillset to a network for a few hundred million

so again... it's in their best interests to let you gain a name in college for a few years... or fizzle out so they don't have to worry about your bum ass.... and then bring over the best of the best, who could sustain that greatness for multiple years, over the best of the best in college... before you come to the nba at 19... we find out you suck by 21... and we stuck watching your sorry ass, cause you got a contract

I think there making a huge investment in this new Gatorade league. This could be a new source of revenues for them. I would watch the Gatorade league if they had late round first round picks in them

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

more on my point... look at last years freshmen

simmons... couldn't do shyt in college, took team nowhere... now we get to wait while he's injured all year and spend the next few years watching him try to develop a damn jumper... this is the first pick
ingram....avg at best... second pick... ain't doing shyt... another project to watch
brown... 3rd pick.... who?? nikkas made it to the offs and he ain't do shyt
jamal murray.. 7th pick... WHO?
marquese chriss.. 8th pick... nikka who?


these are your top 10 picks that are one and dones... nba don't want to see their top 10 picks coming out here avg 9 point and below a game.. 2nd pick in the draft talking about "maybe he'll be a good role player next year and then in his third we might can mold him into a star"

nikka you supposed to be molded when you get here.. this the damn nba, not the d-league.. and i bet if they stayed in college, they'd have developed some skills at the LEAST... or teams would figure out, hey maybe these ain't no top 10 nikkas

 

[FaTaL]

more on my point... look at last years freshmen

simmons... couldn't do shyt in college, took team nowhere... now we get to wait while he's injured all year and spend the next few years watching him try to develop a damn jumper... this is the first pick
ingram....avg at best... second pick... ain't doing shyt... another project to watch
brown... 3rd pick.... who?? nikkas made it to the offs and he ain't do shyt
jamal murray.. 7th pick... WHO?
marquese chriss.. 8th pick... nikka who?


these are your top 10 picks that are one and dones... nba don't want to see their top 10 picks coming out here avg 9 point and below a game.. 2nd pick in the draft talking about "maybe he'll be a good role player next year and then in his third we might can mold him into a star"

nikka you supposed to be molded when you get here.. this the damn nba, not the d-league.. and i bet if they stayed in college, they'd have developed some skills at the LEAST... or teams would figure out, hey maybe these ain't no top 10 nikkas

The college game does not develop players for the NBA

All college coaches do is milk the clock to limit possessions. It's terrible basketball

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I think there making a huge investment in this new Gatorade league. This could be a new source of revenues for them. I would watch the Gatorade league if they had late round first round picks in them

yea that's what the d-league is supposed to be

if we want a win win for players/teams... then draft at 18, but each team has a farm team... so you play in your d league team until you get called up... some nikkas get called up sooner.. some nikkas never get the call

that's the best option.. but we all know nobody is watching that shyt so nba don't want to invest in it.. that's why they work with the NCAA so hard..


personally i don't think it's fair.. but i see it with the nfl.. i couldn't imagine if we just let free market reign and i'm watching nikkas from high school try and go play nfl qb the year after

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The college game does not develop players for the NBA

All college coaches do is milk the clock to limit possessions. It's terrible basketball

it's developed them for the all the decades prior to 2006

i mean yea if you going to a shytty college i see your point.. you can't tell me you studying under coach k for three years or larry brown and you come out knowing the same shyt you know from coach whoeverthefukk from valley ridge high

i mean shyt.. that's 3 years of playing against better comp than you did in high school ain't it? don't steel sharpen steel

 

[The Fire]

Yeah but all American sports do. America is built on capitalism but american sports is based on socialism.

In american sports a team that is bad is awarded with a high draft pick and even an easier schedule like in the NFL.

In euro for example your team performing poorly can get kicked out of a league.

It is very interesting how a countries culture can be one way but their sports can be another way.

it's because in Europe clubs operate individually, so it's a sort of survival of the fittest battle
but in America, the leagues manage and profit off the various teams so their interests are in having teams doing well

 

[Malta]

it's developed them for the all the decades prior to 2006

i mean yea if you going to a shytty college i see your point.. you can't tell me you studying under coach k for three years or larry brown and you come out knowing the same shyt you know from coach whoeverthefukk from valley ridge high

i mean shyt.. that's 3 years of playing against better comp than you did in high school ain't it? don't steel sharpen steel

The best player to come out of Duke in the last 10 years played the least amount of games for Coach K.


Nothing prepares guys for the NBA more than actually playing against NBA players. Playing in the playoffs was a better experience for Thon Maker than had he went to college.

 

[FaTaL]

yea that's what the d-league is supposed to be

if we want a win win for players/teams... then draft at 18, but each team has a farm team... so you play in your d league team until you get called up... some nikkas get called up sooner.. some nikkas never get the call

that's the best option.. but we all know nobody is watching that shyt so nba don't want to invest in it.. that's why they work with the NCAA so hard..


personally i don't think it's fair.. but i see it with the nfl.. i couldn't imagine if we just let free market reign and i'm watching nikkas from high school try and go play nfl qb the year after

You can't comprehend football and basketball. Most 18-19 year olds physically can't play in the NFL while most 18 year olds can in the NBA. Right now these future NBA players are just rotting in college for a year doing nothing. Now if they were getting paid many might stick around to sharpen their craft

 

[FaTaL]

it's developed them for the all the decades prior to 2006

i mean yea if you going to a shytty college i see your point.. you can't tell me you studying under coach k for three years or larry brown and you come out knowing the same shyt you know from coach whoeverthefukk from valley ridge high

i mean shyt.. that's 3 years of playing against better comp than you did in high school ain't it? don't steel sharpen steel

Coach k is overrated, most of players don't pan out anyways

 

[jwinfield]

more on my point... look at last years freshmen

simmons... couldn't do shyt in college, took team nowhere... now we get to wait while he's injured all year and spend the next few years watching him try to develop a damn jumper... this is the first pick
ingram....avg at best... second pick... ain't doing shyt... another project to watch
brown... 3rd pick.... who?? nikkas made it to the offs and he ain't do shyt
jamal murray.. 7th pick... WHO?
marquese chriss.. 8th pick... nikka who?


these are your top 10 picks that are one and dones... nba don't want to see their top 10 picks coming out here avg 9 point and below a game.. 2nd pick in the draft talking about "maybe he'll be a good role player next year and then in his third we might can mold him into a star"

nikka you supposed to be molded when you get here.. this the damn nba, not the d-league.. and i bet if they stayed in college, they'd have developed some skills at the LEAST... or teams would figure out, hey maybe these ain't no top 10 nikkas

Denzel Valentine played 4 years under Izzo and was terrible.