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No I don't sell people into slavery. No I don't sell crack or meth in my community or any other. No I don't commit violent acts in my community and act like I'm some warrior because I'm violent.

I think the word is metaphor for what I was attempting to convey

very happy I am you none of those things

what of being divisive?
not viewing Africans, Blk HIspanics, or Caribbean people as your people?

is that not the same thing you complain about with "divisive/hateful" africans?
 

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I think the word is metaphor for what I was attempting to convey

very happy I am you none of those things

what of being divisive?
not viewing Africans, Blk HIspanics, or Caribbean people as your people?

is that not the same thing you complain about with "divisive/hateful" africans?

Not this "divisive" talk again.

AGAIN, how the fukk am I gonna divide something that was never TOGETHER in the first fukking place??

They are not "my people" and even they will tell us ADOS/Native Black Americans that.

We were the mains ones (incorrectly) acting lost and pushing that "but we all Black, we are all brothers!!" when others don't see it that way and have no problem making distinctions between themselves and ADOS folks. Especially when it's time to take credit for something.
 

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Can you blame them since that’s the whitewashed narrative being pushed in the US? Even the UK that was one of the primary parties involved in it doesn’t push that narrative & it always acknowledge those captured. Some idiotic Africans in America also help fuel this narrative like the half-baked lunatic that wrote the trash article on The New Yorker & Huffington Post.

I was watching CNN when the Queen died & some female white professors went live on air whilst being interviewed by Don Lemon to brazenly claim that Africans were the ones who sold other Africans & the British royal family were the ones who ended it & stopped Africans from selling other Africans yet Don Lemon didn’t check her brazen revisionism.

The volume alone doesn’t even make it possible. The precursor to transatlantic slavery (which they always hide) was the shipping of native Americans to Europe as slaves. I guess native Americans also sold their people into history, lol. During the Opium wars - Chinese people were also shipped to the Caribbean. Were they also sold?

With all the big guns & cannons they shipped to Africa to protect their lucrative slave business - you’d have to be an idiot to think they bought the bulk of the slaves. Why buy what you can get for free?

Not saying some African tribes weren’t complicit & it’s understandable due to all the wars they were fighting & the need for sophisticated weapons to prosecute the wars - but the cac narrative on this thread is idiotic.

Funny how a lot of these ‘sold Africans’ in South America later bought their freedom in the new world & returned home to those who supposedly sold them to live happily ever after.



This is actually a good nuanced comment with some valid counter points however it still does not refute the point that Africans were complicit in transatlantic slavery in a major way.
 

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Not this "divisive" talk again.

AGAIN, how the fukk am I gonna divide something that was never TOGETHER in the first fukking place??

They are not "my people" and even they will tell us ADOS/Native Black Americans that.

We were the mains ones (incorrectly) acting lost and pushing that "but we all Black, we are all brothers!!" when others don't see it that way and have no problem making distinctions between themselves and ADOS folks. Especially when it's time to take credit for something.

You do not think you "divisive"?

my point is you say the Africans who had no concept of universal blkness or unity were bad people

and you engage in the same "my people" vs them division

what you complaining about?
you think the same as them
against pan africanism
no belief in blk unity
 

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You do not think you "divisive"?

my point is you say the Africans who had no concept of universal blkness or unity were bad people

and you engage in the same "my people" vs them division

what you complaining about?
you think the same as them
against pan africanism
no belief in blk unity

I'm for mine first. If we share common interests and goals with other groups, fine, we should work together.
I have no problem with that. But what I'm not doing is going around to other groups begging for unity, begging for acceptance. Groveling talking that "but we all Black, please accept me" jive.
 

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I'm for mine first. If we share common interests and goals with other groups, fine, we should work together.
I have no problem with that. But what I'm not doing is going around to other groups begging for unity, begging for acceptance. Groveling talking that "but we all Black, please accept me" jive.

I am not disagreeing with you...
some say if the native americans were like that....
history would have been different...

my point is that you cannot complain about something and have those same ways
that would be hypocritical

same way you for yours
same way many tribes who beefed with other tribes felt
"us or them"
 

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This is actually a good nuanced comment with some valid counter points however it still does not refute the point that Africans were complicit in transatlantic slavery in a major way.

Not saying a few African tribes weren’t complicit, however, the level of complicity wasn’t as broad as the whitewashed narrative. Yes, some tribes sold some slaves but the volume isn’t plausible.

Africa is a huge continent with thousands of ethnic groups & only 2 regions (west & central Africa) were mostly affected (a few slaves were taken from Southern Africa). Even within both regions - out of the tens or thousands of tribes there, only a few even had contact with white people before colonisation.

Let’s use Ghana & Nigeria as an examples since both are the 2 countries most are conversant with. Ghana has about 10 real ethnic groups & out of the 10, only 2/3 did any type of trading with Europeans during the slave trade. And Nigeria has about 30-50 real ethnic groups & only less than 10 did any type of trading with Europeans during that period. Same is applicable all over the 2 affected regions. Also, a lot of the tribes didn’t have any type of contacts with one another. So, to accuse all Africans is preposterous to begin with.

Now, let’s look at how Europeans came back to colonise Africa & how they conducted the palm oil trade. A good story that would give you inkling into how Europeans did business with Africans is the palm oil trade business with King Koko of Nembe in present day Nigeria (Google his story, it was viral on social media a few months ago) & how they used cannon bombs to raze down every kingdom that rejected colonisation & the shameful looting of everything they could lay their hands.

So, how would anyone logically think these vicious Europeans with their big cannons all over the coast were legit buying millions of slaves from Africans who had inferior weapons? A cursory look at how kingdoms that rejected & fought against slavery were razed down - with kings & queens banished is a good pointer.

Europeans are just human traffickers. Even after transatlantic slavery ended, it didn’t stop them from shipping over 1 million poor & destitute Indians & Chinese to the West Indies & East/Southern Africa into indentured servitude as labourers to work like slaves. Heck, almost all the Chinese people they shipped to Panama died. Or were they also sold by African & Asian kings?

Just stop spreading whitewashed anti-intellectual propaganda/revisionism created to cover white guilt.
 

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By the civil war only 2% of the Black American population was born in Africa when teaching history you’d think there’d be a lot more.

Brazil :huhldup::picard::sadcam:


why would you think otherwise? Only Brazil and Cuba was importing Africans heavy in the 1800s, with Brazil and Cuba doing the most importing even in the mid 1800s followed by Trinidad, Puerto Rico, and South Carolina.


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Honestly, unless you’ve read the proper literature on this subject like “How Europe Underdeveloped Africa” or “Christopher Columbus and the Afrikan Holocaust” to get the basics then you have no real weight in this discussion whatsoever. This was a process of many centuries which carries far more nuisance than is typically afforded as is the case with most things to do with Black people.
 

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Honestly, unless you’ve read the proper literature on this subject like “How Europe Underdeveloped Africa” or “Christopher Columbus and the Afrikan Holocaust” to get the basics then you have no real weight in this discussion whatsoever. This was a process of many centuries which carries far more nuisance than is typically afforded as is the case with most things to do with Black people.
White people had 3 weapons

Jesus
Guns
Disease

Jesus justified their brutality and was used to enslave indigenous people mentally

Guns gave them advantage against primitive weaponry.

Disease enabled them to wipe out entire populations.

Capitalism fueled the advancement. And it still fuels it to this day.
 
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