African immigrant forced into sex work in Dubai! Sad shıt 😢

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the guy in this video should be killed im putting it plainly
Also like i mentioned african governments need to get more stronger as well. You think if this was american women or uk women that this was happening to there would be quietness?
There ya go I know you gotta be careful in your criticism but there's normal corruption and there's this.

I pushback against the Africans sold us to the cracker narrative but damn this is what homie is doing.

You live there so I'm sure you see the signs and depending on who you know maybe you talked down a few women from going to arabia to take a job but damn.

You built a wonderful life over there but the main reason I'm not there is the lack of rule of law and poverty. Not that Africa is poor its more a poverty in sprit to make this exploitation so easy and lucrative with the knowledge of this exposure he still can buy his way out of jail.

There was a Kenyan politician when told the club was too packed shot a DJ in the face. Dude was arrested The Economist said that he was unlikely to go to jail (he was an opposition politician to boot) and I seen him pop up offering some slight criticism of the current president.
 

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There ya go I know you gotta be careful in your criticism but there's normal corruption and there's this.

I pushback against the Africans sold us to the cracker narrative but damn this is what homie is doing.

You live there so I'm sure you see the signs and depending on who you know maybe you talked down a few women from going to arabia to take a job but damn.

You built a wonderful life over there but the main reason I'm not there is the lack of rule of law and poverty. Not that Africa is poor its more a poverty in sprit to make this exploitation so easy and lucrative with the knowledge of this exposure he still can buy his way out of jail.

There was a Kenyan politician when told the club was too packed shot a DJ in the face. Dude was arrested The Economist said that he was unlikely to go to jail (he was an opposition politician to boot) and I seen him pop up offering some slight criticism of the current president.

Its common every day folks are leaving to dubai and saudi arabia for au pair, and other jobs. Unfortunately you don't know what's real and not beforehand. And even if it's legit unfortunately you have to deal with the sexual harassment many times and because the money is decent you suck it up. Or complain and you're scared your permit will be no longer valid and you have to return.

And yeah unfortunately if you have money in africa life is great but if you don't then life isn't the best. No really labour laws, you can go months without getting paid your salary, and yeah if you have money oyu can get away with anything.

We had to fire our cleaner last week because my wife caught her stealing cooking oil and some of our daughter clothes. Can't trust anyone as well over here they see what you have and plot
 

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Its common every day folks are leaving to dubai and saudi arabia for au pair, and other jobs. Unfortunately you don't know what's real and not beforehand. And even if it's legit unfortunately you have to deal with the sexual harassment many times and because the money is decent you suck it up. Or complain and you're scared your permit will be no longer valid and you have to return.

And yeah unfortunately if you have money in africa life is great but if you don't then life isn't the best. No really labour laws, you can go months without getting paid your salary, and yeah if you have money oyu can get away with anything.

We had to fire our cleaner last week because my wife caught her stealing cooking oil and some of our daughter clothes. Can't trust anyone as well over here they see what you have and plot
Again poverty of the mind. I'm sure you paid her well but she stole little bullshyt.

Happened to me too.

Again it's the super dog eat dog world outside of every gated complex there's old ladies looking to be washer women

But it happened before
 

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Again poverty of the mind. I'm sure you paid her well but she stole little bullshyt.

Happened to me too.

Again it's the super dog eat dog world outside of every gated complex there's old ladies looking to be washer women

But it happened before


Yup higher than most cleaners make. The crazy thing if she just asked like hey I do a business on the weekends and im short cooking oil I'd have been like hey sure go ahead. Or when your baby grows out of your clothes could i have? I would have said sure.

This is the second straight cleaner who has stolen from us, the first one was stealing water and food. And now this one, now we don't trust anyone in our home.
 

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Yup higher than most cleaners make. The crazy thing if she just asked like hey I do a business on the weekends and im short cooking oil I'd have been like hey sure go ahead. Or when your baby grows out of your clothes could i have? I would have said sure.

This is the second straight cleaner who has stolen from us, the first one was stealing water and food. And now this one, now we don't trust anyone in our home.
yep Traveling sista had a live in Dora Wakazi They probably paid her the eqivelent of 6 pounds a year but they gave her random shyt like a phone on her few days off.

I remember feeling like that was slavery but it really took away the incintive to steal. Again general distrust based on the President's theft just like the Border Czar being comfortable taking a bribe because donnie is stealing hand over fist.
 

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They didn't "sell us" they sold prisoners of war who just so happened (to be what would later be coined by Europeans) to be Black. Race as we know it wasn't a thing back then.
:dahell: Did this make sense in your head?

Also the Africans had no idea that the Europeans were gonna rape, torture, breed, and brainwash the prisoners they sold indefinitely as that was unconscionable. Slavery was always a thing. But chattel slavery was not the norm.
Nonsense. They were fellow collaborators.

The tree of forgetfulness​

The Dahomey kings were known to employ magic to help their trades and as such, along the slave trails were left different elements given supernatural powers to help them in their evil business. The first stop along the slave trail of Ouidah contains such an element. Europeans desired slaves whose memory would be wiped clean of any remembrance of their culture, family and homeland. The kings were afraid that, if slaves knew were they came from, they would be able to flee and come back to their lands so a magical tree was used to allegedly make them forget all of that. Men were asked to turn around the tree nine times and women seven, after which it was said the magic of the tree would make them forget all their ties to the land they were pushed away from


Furthermore, yes tf they did know. There are many accounts of those 'mistakenly' enslaved, children of kings and such, who were eventually returned home. They knew. Let me know if you need receipts, post getting kinda dense, but you said a lot, and rather authoritatively.

"FBAs" also conveniently gloss over the fact that Africans were fighting enslavement and genocide at the same time themselves.
Your timeline is off by quite a bit. We were already free by the time of colonization.
The Scramble for Africa[a] was the invasion, conquest, and colonisation of most of Africa by seven Western European powers driven by the Second Industrial Revolution during the late 19th century and early 20th century in the era of "New Imperialism": Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom.

In 1870, 10% of the continent was formally under European control. By 1914, this figure had risen to almost 90%; the only states retaining sovereignty were Liberia, Ethiopia, Egba,Scramble for Africa - Wikipedia Aussa, Senusiyya,[2] Mbunda,[3] Ogaden/Haud,[4][5] the Dervish State, the Darfur Sultanate,[6] and the Ovambo kingdoms,[7][8] most of which were later conquered


"They sold us" argument is weak. Chattel slavery said more about the buyers than the sellers.
It's not 'an argument.' It is factually what occurred. Whole kingdoms were built off the slave economy, both in Europe and Africa. You're gaslighting.

And lol yes of course we have Black immigrants. In the small town I'm from they are usually integrated but when I used to doordash in Nashville years ago and I'd deliver to this community in I think it was East Nashville that was filled with what appeared to be East Africans.
Nashville, TN:
"People from Somalia to Rwanda, Sudan to Ethiopia, Nigeria to Haiti have put down roots in Nashville. In total, 12% of the city is made up of immigrants, a large proportion of whom moved to the city after the year 2000."


AI says: "Based on a 2024 population estimate of 704,963, 12% of the population of Nashville, TN, is approximately 84,596 people"

NYC:
"In terms of metropolitan areas, New York City has the largest Black immigrant population, with roughly 1.1 million Black immigrants in 2019."

Most Black immigrants live in Northeast, South; New York City has largest Black immigrant population by metro area
:deadrose: Nashville foreign black pop: roughly 85k vs NYC foreign black pop: 1m+ way back in 2019.

You don't have the context to understand what's happening in the NE. Respectfully, your opinion is next to useless here. A smart person would stfu for a minute and observe what NY'ers and maybe Floridians have to say on this matter.

Idk. Maybe up north Black immigrants diss AA's out in the open a bunch and I don't want to imply that you never experienced shyt from them.
Why do you feel the need to diminish the very real economic concerns I pointed out? This is what I meant by vibes vs data. You sound politically immature and historically ignorant.
 

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contrast that with what I said about Noah and his sons Ham (black), Shem (Name), Japeth (to enlarge). Thats why the world above Noah (where they used stones to write) was lost in the flood.... ham-mayim (black waters)
:jbhmm: I'm sure you knew this, but for anybody reading along, that's the only time in the whole Bible that that word is translated as "enlarge."

Lexical Summary
pathah: To entice, deceive, persuade, seduce, allure
Original Word: פָתָה
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: pathah
Pronunciation: pah-THAH
Phonetic Spelling: (paw-thaw')
KJV: allure, deceive, enlarge, entice, flatter, persuade, silly (one)
Word Origin: [a primitive root]

1. to open, i.e. be (causatively, make) roomy
2. usually figuratively (in a mental or moral sense) to be (causatively, make) simple or (in a sinister way) delude

 

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:jbhmm: I'm sure you knew this, but for anybody reading along, that's the only time in the whole Bible that that word is translated as "enlarge."

Lexical Summary
pathah: To entice, deceive, persuade, seduce, allure
Original Word: פָתָה
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: pathah
Pronunciation: pah-THAH
Phonetic Spelling: (paw-thaw')
KJV: allure, deceive, enlarge, entice, flatter, persuade, silly (one)
Word Origin: [a primitive root]

1. to open, i.e. be (causatively, make) roomy
2. usually figuratively (in a mental or moral sense) to be (causatively, make) simple or (in a sinister way) delude

i find it kind of interesting that the pronunciation there is similar to this here


so an egyptian interpretation would be "student of ptah" or student of the creator

if Ptah created as he uttered words, then what would the written words fall under? what about when inebriated?

so is Noah living inside the world of his written world when he sleeps? :ohhh: or rather his written world is where his sons are?
 
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:dahell: Did this make sense in your head?


Nonsense. They were fellow collaborators.

The tree of forgetfulness​

The Dahomey kings were known to employ magic to help their trades and as such, along the slave trails were left different elements given supernatural powers to help them in their evil business. The first stop along the slave trail of Ouidah contains such an element. Europeans desired slaves whose memory would be wiped clean of any remembrance of their culture, family and homeland. The kings were afraid that, if slaves knew were they came from, they would be able to flee and come back to their lands so a magical tree was used to allegedly make them forget all of that. Men were asked to turn around the tree nine times and women seven, after which it was said the magic of the tree would make them forget all their ties to the land they were pushed away from


Furthermore, yes tf they did know. There are many accounts of those 'mistakenly' enslaved, children of kings and such, who were eventually returned home. They knew. Let me know if you need receipts, post getting kinda dense, but you said a lot, and rather authoritatively.


Your timeline is off by quite a bit. We were already free by the time of colonization.
The Scramble for Africa[a] was the invasion, conquest, and colonisation of most of Africa by seven Western European powers driven by the Second Industrial Revolution during the late 19th century and early 20th century in the era of "New Imperialism": Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom.

In 1870, 10% of the continent was formally under European control. By 1914, this figure had risen to almost 90%; the only states retaining sovereignty were Liberia, Ethiopia, Egba,Scramble for Africa - Wikipedia Aussa, Senusiyya,[2] Mbunda,[3] Ogaden/Haud,[4][5] the Dervish State, the Darfur Sultanate,[6] and the Ovambo kingdoms,[7][8] most of which were later conquered



It's not 'an argument.' It is factually what occurred. Whole kingdoms were built off the slave economy, both in Europe and Africa. You're gaslighting.


Nashville, TN:
"People from Somalia to Rwanda, Sudan to Ethiopia, Nigeria to Haiti have put down roots in Nashville. In total, 12% of the city is made up of immigrants, a large proportion of whom moved to the city after the year 2000."


AI says: "Based on a 2024 population estimate of 704,963, 12% of the population of Nashville, TN, is approximately 84,596 people"

NYC:
"In terms of metropolitan areas, New York City has the largest Black immigrant population, with roughly 1.1 million Black immigrants in 2019."

Most Black immigrants live in Northeast, South; New York City has largest Black immigrant population by metro area
:deadrose: Nashville foreign black pop: roughly 85k vs NYC foreign black pop: 1m+ way back in 2019.

You don't have the context to understand what's happening in the NE. Respectfully, your opinion is next to useless here. A smart person would stfu for a minute and observe what NY'ers and maybe Floridians have to say on this matter.


Why do you feel the need to diminish the very real economic concerns I pointed out? This is what I meant by vibes vs data. You sound politically immature and historically ignorant.

:dahell: Did this make sense in your head?

Yes. My point was that they didn't look at it as selling Black people. Thus it's disingenuous to say they "sold us" The bulk of issues that we(Black Americans) face are because of racist institutions that were created afterward. Race was invented for the purposes of racism.

...I just realized you probably meant "us" as in Black Americans and not Black people in general....which is what I consider to be "us" but my point still stands.

Nonsense. They were fellow collaborators.

Oh wow didn't know about about "The tree of Forgetfulness" I learned something new:ehh: I was thinking more along the lines of using the bible as a means of pacifying. But I concede this particular point. But the article you posted kind of backed me up a bit. Referring to the section that mentions slavery was already a thing but became an industry upon Euros arrival. Reinforcing my stance that more of our anger as Black Americans should be focused towards Europeans versus Africans. The Sin of slavery wasn't invented by Africans but the Sin of racism was invented by Europeans.

Furthermore, yes tf they did know. There are many accounts of those 'mistakenly' enslaved, children of kings and such, who were eventually returned home. They knew. Let me know if you need receipts, post getting kinda dense, but you said a lot, and rather authoritatively.

Not doubting you but if you have the time I wouldn't mind reading about it. Need all the help I can get correcting my "ignorance and ""immaturity" :wink:


Your timeline is off by quite a bit. We were already free by the time of colonization.

Yes. The majority of colonization and genocide occurred after we were free over here. That "10%" in the quote you posted is what I was referring too. The coasts were controlled by Europeans for the most part and at least one ethnic group experienced genocide (Canary Islands natives)

But I admit I thought the number was higher than that. So I suppose I concede that point. But my ultimate point still stands...which I'll get to at the end.


It's not 'an argument.' It is factually what occurred. Whole kingdoms were built off the slave economy, both in Europe and Africa. You're gaslighting.

Not gaslighting. If anything it's gaslighting to insinuate that Africans came up with the idea to industrialize slavery. That was a European concept.


You don't have the context to understand what's happening in the NE. Respectfully, your opinion is next to useless here. A smart person would stfu for a minute and observe what NY'ers and maybe Floridians have to say on this matter.

I've observed enough to know making racist caricatures of Black people...inventing new racial/ethnic slurs for Black people...and shooting ourselves in the foot politically is not worth what FBA's claim to want to accomplish.

Many Black voters sit at home on election days because they have been convinced that Democrats/Liberals are equally as bad as the existential threat of the far right. Because they're too soft on immigrants or whatever. And the rolling back of the rights our ancestors fought for is the consequence. The same ancestors FBA claim to honor.

Why do you feel the need to diminish the very real economic concerns I pointed out? This is what I meant by vibes vs data. You sound politically immature and historically ignorant.


Mind you this person follows a movement whose figurehead is more or less the Black equivalent to Andrew Tate. To anyone reading this exchange and is unfamiliar with the FBA movement.

Tariq Nasheed hasn't even put as much thought into the movement as you have Hottie.
 

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Not gaslighting. If anything it's gaslighting to insinuate that Africans came up with the idea to industrialize slavery. That was a European concept.
You're strawmanning now, I never made that argument. Nope, not never. But what I will say is, up until they enslaved us, wp had been the slaves, enslaved by Muslims who were very often black. When it came to slave trading, West Africans had a lot more experience.

Yes. My point was that they didn't look at it as selling Black people. Thus it's disingenuous to say they "sold us" The bulk of issues that we(Black Americans) face are because of racist institutions that were created afterward. Race was invented for the purposes of racism.

...I just realized you probably meant "us" as in Black Americans and not Black people in general....which is what I consider to be "us" but my point still stands.
Your point is basura. They sold us. That's a fact. Any other framing is removing agency from West African kingdoms who made this decision knowledgeably, after years of acquaintance, often marrying their own daughters to the white enslavers. Those families still constitute a good portion of the West African coastal elite.

I've observed enough to know making racist caricatures of Black people...inventing new racial/ethnic slurs for Black people...
I'm sure you can quote yourself vociferously checking Africans calling us akata... right?

Not doubting you but if you have the time I wouldn't mind reading about it. Need all the help I can get correcting my "ignorance and ""immaturity" :wink:
AI said this, but I know of more.

Notable examples of mistakenly enslaved African nobles include:

Abdul Rahman Ibrahima
  • Background: Abdul Rahman was a highly educated Fulani prince and military commander from the kingdom of Fouta Djallon, located in modern-day Guinea. In 1788, he was ambushed and captured during a military campaign, then sold into the transatlantic slave trade.
  • Enslavement: He spent 40 years enslaved on a Mississippi plantation. Despite his pleas, his enslaver dismissed his claims of royalty and gave him the nickname "Prince".
  • Freedom and return: Decades into his enslavement, he met an Irishman who had been rescued by Abdul Rahman's family in Africa years prior. His story eventually reached the Sultan of Morocco, who appealed to the U.S. government for his freedom. He was freed in 1828 and returned to Africa with his wife, but died of a fever in Liberia a few months later, never reaching his homeland.

Ayuba Suleiman Diallo (Job Ben Solomon)
  • Background: Ayuba Suleiman Diallo was a wealthy, educated Fula Muslim scholar from the Senegambia region. His father was a prominent religious leader.
  • Enslavement: In 1731, while trying to sell two enslaved people for his father, he was captured and sold into slavery himself. He was transported to Annapolis, Maryland, and put to work on a tobacco plantation.
  • Freedom and return: When he was jailed for running away, a local lawyer recognized his Arabic writing. A letter he wrote to his father in Arabic made its way to James Oglethorpe, a director of the Royal African Company. Oglethorpe purchased Diallo's freedom, and he traveled to England where he became a minor celebrity. With the help of benefactors, Diallo returned to his homeland in 1734, though he found that his father had died and his kingdom had been ravaged by war.

William Ansah Sessarakoo
  • Background: In the 1740s, William Ansah Sessarakoo, the son of a Fante chief who traded enslaved people to the British, was sent to England for an education.
  • Enslavement: The ship captain entrusted with his passage instead sold him into slavery in Barbados.
  • Freedom and return: He was later discovered by a free Fante trader and ultimately freed after his father appealed to the British. When he arrived in England, he was received as a prince, but he eventually returned to West Africa.

The Robin Johns
  • Background: Ephraim and Ancona Robin John were African princes from the city-state of Old Calabar.
  • Enslavement: They were betrayed and sold into slavery by rivals.
  • Freedom and return: With the help of abolitionists, the Robin Johns learned English and used the British legal system to fight for their freedom. They eventually won their case and returned to Africa.

Mind you this person follows a movement whose figurehead is more or less the Black equivalent to Andrew Tate. To anyone reading this exchange and is unfamiliar with the FBA movement.

Tariq Nasheed hasn't even put as much thought into the movement as you have Hottie.
You're a fukking liar. I rep ADOS, which is why I didn't just roast yo ass to Bolivia but instead, know tf I'm talking about, unlike you, who have conceded many points in this exchange.
 

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The pipeline is cheap labor, then prostitution. If you are not desireable as a prostitute you are more valuable dead and your organs sold. This is the new type of slavery that's going on. Heard this from a top Government official in my home country.
And you could tell all these women that and they would still go for the opportunity. How you gonna save people like that? They should be smart enough to wonder why they don't recruit from Muslim countries for these jobs.
 

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Random question: has she ever been verified? I don't even recall seeing her name on the list in the verification thread. I'm not saying she isn't a she but still. :jbhmm:
Several ppl here know what I look like just for these occasions. I am who I say I am, but I'm not allowed to post pics on the open web. (see sig) I know who got what pic so I'll know the snitch.

My man is kinda important. I do this for him. I'm really quite open.
 
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