Africans accuse African Americans of "appropriating" their culture (legitimate criticism?)

[Poitier]

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I can't speak for every region of Africa (West, Central for example), but having been to a few African countries, this is definitely the case in my experience. A couple of young (as in high school aged and younger) kids flippantly mention mainstream African American recording artists here and there, but that's about it. I didn't have a single conversation about black Americans in Africa ever. Jamaican music and local African shyt is more popular there and footballers are WAY more popular/talked about than NBA/NFL teams and players.

You were just bragging about South African house music but AA culture isn't salient?


And the thread is about immigrants not continental africans.

 

[Poitier]

I understand the premises of the thread but I don't get the insults. A few under-educated people on twitter have conflicting opinions about a group of people, doesn't warrant trolling and senseless division IMO.

This isn't say in all the threads about AA c00ns......why is that?

 

[Poitier]

And Simphiwe Dana is right, we care to know more about AA issues than vice versa.(Speaking as a South African)

And we are suppose to feel guilty because our cac media ignores Africa?

 

[World'sFinest]

Our media doesn't cover your news, weak excuse breh.

 

[Northern Son]

You were just bragging about South African house music but AA culture isn't salient?


And the thread is about immigrants not continental immigrants.

Yeah you're right about that , but I actually never heard any House in South Africa (in all likelihood just a coincidence, it's definitely very popular) and no one I talked to was really discussing AA music. I saw Wayne, Nicki, Kanye, Ludacris ("Number One Spot" throwback) on the SA equivalent of MTV (played a lot of Hip Hop), but my interactions with people plus what I heard in the clubs (in Lusaka, Zambia) was not centered around American music or any other obvious aspect of the culture. AA culture is very salient in southern Africa, it's just not the center of entertainment and art there just like anime and whatnot is really popular in the west, but a lot of people aren't following it like that (American music is more visible there than anime is in the west, but hopefully you get what I mean). SA is probably the exception, that place doesn't really feel like Africa though .

And bragging isn't the right word since I'm not a SA, not my culture.

I don't know any immigrants who say that shyt personally, but yeah there are a lot of idiots out there (no offense, but primariily west Africans) who try to look down on AA, can't argue that, it's documented. Not everyone though.

 

[humble Hermit]

This isn't say in all the threads about AA c00ns......why is that?

If it hasn't been said then it should of been said a long time ago . You trying to rile brehs up breh?
I've seen great posts for you on a normal occasion, so I know you know your stuff but a lot of posters are gonna fall for the bait and take shots at a continent instead of directing their thoughts and feeling towards the twitter handle.

 

[Poitier]

Yeah that's true , but I actually never heard any House in South Africa (in all likelihood just a coincidence, it's definitely very popular) and no one I talked to was really discussing AA music. I saw Wayne, Nicki, Kanye, Ludacris ("Number One Spot" throwback) on the SA equivalent of MTV (played a lot of Hip Hop), but my interactions with people plus what I heard in the clubs (in Lusaka, Zambia) was not centered around American music or any other obvious aspect of the culture. AA culture is very salient in southern Africa, it's just not the center of entertainment and art there just like anime and whatnot is really popular in the west, but a lot of people aren't following it like that (American music is more visible there than anime is in the west, but hopefully you get what I mean).

And bragging isn't the right word since I'm not a SA, not my culture.

I don't know any immigrants who say that shyt personally, but yeah there are a lot of idiots out there (no offense, but primariily west Africans) who try to look down on AA, can't argue that, it's documented. Not everyone though.

I didn't say continental Africans are c00ns, I didn't say AA is the culture the center of entertainment and art there, and I clearly am not saying all African exhibit the mindset in OP.... the thread is only about immigrants

If it hasn't been said then it should of been said a long time ago . You trying to rile brehs up breh?
I've seen great posts for you on a normal occasion, so I know you know your stuff but a lot of posters are gonna fall for the bait and take shots at a continent instead of directing their thoughts and feeling towards the twitter handle.

Just calling out double standards......AA get shamed while being told to be about unity

Our media doesn't cover your news, weak excuse breh.

Would you expect Jamaicans or Afro Columbians to keep up with SA current events?

 

[World'sFinest]

Yeah you're right about that , but I actually never heard any House in South Africa (in all likelihood just a coincidence, it's definitely very popular) and no one I talked to was really discussing AA music. I saw Wayne, Nicki, Kanye, Ludacris ("Number One Spot" throwback) on the SA equivalent of MTV (played a lot of Hip Hop), but my interactions with people plus what I heard in the clubs (in Lusaka, Zambia) was not centered around American music or any other obvious aspect of the culture. AA culture is very salient in southern Africa, it's just not the center of entertainment and art there just like anime and whatnot is really popular in the west, but a lot of people aren't following it like that (American music is more visible there than anime is in the west, but hopefully you get what I mean). SA is probably the exception, that place doesn't really feel like Africa though .

And bragging isn't the right word since I'm not a SA, not my culture.

I don't know any immigrants who say that shyt personally, but yeah there are a lot of idiots out there (no offense, but primariily west Africans) who try to look down on AA, can't argue that, it's documented. Not everyone though.

Why do you say South Africa doesn't feel like Africa breh?

 

[Northern Son]

Why do you say South Africa doesn't feel like Africa breh?

It's extremely influenced by the dominant white culture.

 

[World'sFinest]

Would you expect Jamaicans or Afro Columbians to keep up with SA current events?

I feel like as Black people we should be trying our best to keep up with the black man's plight globally. So to answer your question yeah, same way I expect we(as Africans from Africa) should be knowing more about the black mans plight.

 

[World'sFinest]

It's extremely influenced by the dominant white culture.

In what aspect, breh, because I'm really interested in what made you come to that conclusion.

 

[Northern Son]

In what aspect, breh, because I'm really interested in what made you come to that conclusion.

Extremely entitled white people that stare at you, and frown if you make eye contact everywhere, black people who speak like:



Food that looks and tastes like nasty ass German sausage being passed off as "a treasured national dish" ("Boerworst" or some shyt), black folks with mannerisms that are just...cacish, Pistorious (I was there in 2012 at the time of the Olympics) and white rugby players and being worshipped like Gods, Mandela the only black face emblazoning anything looking like a black token in Africa, TV and advertising overwhelmingly white, white superiors at every job (one Indian too), Ben 10, Barbie and other "white media" on children's products ...I wasn't there for long, but there was just this palpable cacness that was unavoidable and hard to explain. I don't want to start anything, but some of the black folks who worked at the airport treated white people better. You got to be there to understand, no one "talked race", but as an outsider you feel it immediately.

 

[Northern Son]

All the cuisine was cac (pap and boerworst mainly).

 

[World'sFinest]

Extremely entitled white people that stare at you, and frown if you make eye contact everywhere, black people who speak like:



Food that looks and tastes like nasty ass German sausage being passed off as "a treasured national dish" ("Boerworst" or some shyt), black folks with mannerisms that are just...cacish, white rugby players and Pistorious (I was there in 2012 at the time of the Olympics) being worshipped like Gods, Mandela the only black face emblazoning anything, TV and advertising overwhelmingly white, white superiors at every job (one Indian too), Ben 10, Barbie and other "white media" on children's products ...I wasn't there for long, but there was just this palpable cacness that was unavoidable and hard to explain. I don't want to start anything, but some of the black folks who worked at the airport treated white people better. You got to be there to understand, no one "talked race", but as an outsider you feel it.

I feel like your experience was limited to the white part of South Africa, you probably didn't hit the townships did you(Where I live)?
Yeah, c00ns are a thing even in S.A, fukk them.. Boerewors isn't traditional to anything but cacs, now Jeqe and bhontshisi or amadombolo, that shyt is the true heart of S.A ..
Remember apartheid was a thing too breh, so the places that you went were predominantly cac because just 20 years ago cacs owned that shyt in it's entirety.

Know what man, as a gesture of kindness if you ever come back down here my doors are open for you to experience South Africa from a black South Africans perspective.

You should've stared those cacs right the fukk back.

 

[OD-MELA]

the Tweets in the OP r from retards

the responses on the first page of this thread are also mainly from retards

i cant be bothered reading any further and annoying myself

im out