Afro Latino pride, yes you can be both

[Poitier]

I'm not talking about the prados as was already mentioned in this thread.

a large percentage of the Afro-Brazilians you big upped for doing all those afrocentric things..........are in fact pardos

 

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*Kails*:
Lol why are you refering to black trinis as africans? I get you but they are afro. Trinidadians and have been for over 600 years. We gotta be careful not to mislabel ppl. I dont think they'd appreciate that..

As for the indians in those two countries, not all but the socalled elite ones behave as if those resective nations are "theirs"..there has been some racism...more so in guyana but its the attitude i dont like. The indians in jamrock know better lol they learned from the rasta vs. chinese riots

My apologies if that came off as weird but I was very self-conscious and deliberate about using the word "African". I get that they are all citizens of Trinidad & Tobago I just needed a means of differentiating the three groups of citizens and to be honest I've become more and more disillusioned with the term "black" after coming across the 1976 Brazilian census which takes using the term "black" closer to it's logical(IMO ridiculous) conclusion.

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1976 Brazilian census identifications
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http://www.district158.org/baney/Classroom Information Files/World History/2nd Semester/Unit 2 Diversity/Brazil/Brazil 1976 Census Data.pdf

.......Because race is a cultural concept, beliefs about race vary dramatically from one culture to another. In this regard, America and Brazil are amazingly different in the categories they use. The United States has a small number of racial categories, based overwhelmingly on ancestry. Thus, it is possible for an American who "looks white" to "really be black" because he or she has "black blood."

In contrast, Brazilians classify people according to what they look like, using a large number of different terms. For example, one study in the Brazilian northeast conducted by the Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (IBGE)--the entity responsible for the census--asked people what color (cor) they were, and received 134 different answers! (Other studies have found even larger numbers; and the results vary regionally, with much fewer categories used in the south of the country.) In many Brazilian families different racial terms are used to refer to different children, while such distinctions are not possible in the United States because all the children--no matter what they look like--have the same ancestry.

Thus, I was fascinated to read that "For the first time, non-white people make up the majority of Brazil's population, according to preliminary results of the 2010 census.".......


Looking in the Cultural Mirror
How understanding race and culture helps us answer the question: "Who am I?"
by Jefferson M. Fish, Ph.D.

1.Acastanhada (cashewlike tint; caramel colored)
2.Agalegada
3.Alva (pure white)
4.Alva-escura (dark or off-white)
5.Alverenta (or aliviero, "shadow in the water"

6.Alvarinta (tinted or bleached white)
7.Alva-rosada (or jamote, roseate, white with pink highlights)
8.Alvinha (bleached; white-washed)
9.Amarela (yellow)
10.Amarelada (yellowish)
11.Amarela-quemada (burnt yellow or ochre)
12.Amarelosa (yellowed)
13.Amorenada (tannish)
14.Avermelhada (reddish, with blood vessels showing through the skin)
15.Azul (bluish)
16.Azul-marinho (deep bluish)
17.Baiano (ebony)
18.Bem-branca (very white)
19.Bem-clara (translucent)
20.Bem-morena (very dusky)
21.Branca (white)
22.Branca-avermelhada (peach white)
23.Branca-melada (honey toned)
24.Branca-morena (darkish white)
25.Branca-pálida (pallid)
26.Branca-queimada (sunburned white)
27.Branca-sardenta (white with brown spots)
28.Branca-suja (dirty white)
29.Branquiça (a white variation)
30.Branquinha (whitish)
31.Bronze (bronze)
32.Bronzeada (bronzed tan)
33.Bugrezinha-escura (Indian characteristics)
34.Burro-quanto-foge ("burro running away," implying racial mixture of unknown origin)
35.Cabocla (mixture of white, Negro and Indian)
36.Cabo-Verde (black; Cape Verdean)
37.Café (coffee)
38.Café-com-leite (coffee with milk)
39.Canela (cinnamon)
40.Canelada (tawny)
41.Castão (thistle colored)
42.Castanha (cashew)
43.Castanha-clara (clear, cashewlike)
44.Castanha-escura (dark, cashewlike)
45.Chocolate (chocolate brown)
46.Clara (light)
47.Clarinha (very light)
48.Cobre (copper hued)
49.Corado (ruddy)
50.Cor-de-café (tint of coffee)
51.Cor-de-canela (tint of cinnamon)
52.Cor-de-cuia (tea colored)
53.Cor-de-leite (milky)
54.Cor-de-oro (golden)
55.Cor-de-rosa (pink)
56.Cor-firma ("no doubt about it"

57.Crioula (little servant or slave; African)
58.Encerada (waxy)
59.Enxofrada (pallid yellow; jaundiced)
60.Esbranquecimento (mostly white)
61.Escura (dark)
62.Escurinha (semidark)
63.Fogoio (florid; flushed)
64.Galega (see agalegada above)
65.Galegada (see agalegada above)
66.Jambo (like a fruit the deep-red color of a blood orange)
67.Laranja (orange)
68.Lilás (lily)
69.Loira (blond hair and white skin)
70.Loira-clara (pale blond)
71.Loura (blond)
72.Lourinha (flaxen)
73.Malaia (from Malabar)
74.Marinheira (dark greyish)
75.Marrom (brown)
76.Meio-amerela (mid-yellow)
77.Meio-branca (mid-white)
78.Meio-morena (mid-tan)
79.Meio-preta (mid-Negro)
80.Melada (honey colored)
81.Mestiça (mixture of white and Indian)
82.Miscigenação (mixed --- literally "miscegenated"

83.Mista (mixed)
84.Morena (tan)
85.Morena-bem-chegada (very tan)
86.Morena-bronzeada (bronzed tan)
87.Morena-canelada (cinnamonlike brunette)
88.Morena-castanha (cashewlike tan)
89.Morena clara (light tan)
90.Morena-cor-de-canela (cinnamon-hued brunette)
91.Morena-jambo (dark red)
92.Morenada (mocha)
93.Morena-escura (dark tan)
94.Morena-fechada (very dark, almost mulatta)
95.Morenão (very dusky tan)
96.Morena-parda (brown-hued tan)
97.Morena-roxa (purplish-tan)
98.Morena-ruiva (reddish-tan)
99.Morena-trigueira (wheat colored)
100.Moreninha (toffeelike)
101.Mulatta (mixture of white and Negro)
102.Mulatinha (lighter-skinned white-Negro)
103.Negra (negro)
104.Negrota (Negro with a corpulent vody)
105.Pálida (pale)
106.Paraíba (like the color of marupa wood)
107.Parda (dark brown)
108.Parda-clara (lighter-skinned person of mixed race)
109.Polaca (Polish features; prostitute)
110.Pouco-clara (not very clear)
111.Pouco-morena (dusky)
112.Preta (black)
113.Pretinha (black of a lighter hue)
114.Puxa-para-branca (more like a white than a mulatta)
115.Quase-negra (almost Negro)
116.Queimada (burnt)
117.Queimada-de-praia (suntanned)
118.Queimada-de-sol (sunburned)
119.Regular (regular; nondescript)
120.Retinta ("layered" dark skin)
121.Rosa (roseate)
122.Rosada (high pink)
123.Rosa-queimada (burnished rose)
124.Roxa (purplish)
125.Ruiva (strawberry blond)
126.Russo (Russian; see also polaca)
127.Sapecada (burnished red)
128.Sarará (mulatta with reddish kinky hair, aquiline nose)
129.Saraúba (or saraiva: like a white meringue)
130.Tostada (toasted)
131.Trigueira (wheat colored)
132.Turva (opaque)
133.Verde (greenish)
134.Vermelha (reddish)

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That sh*t right there is ri-donk-ulous

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My take is that in an emigrant society the point of a census boils down to how many citizens do we have that originate from a given geographical region of the world(I.E were they emigrated from). Africa, East Asia, Southeast Asia, South Asia, Western Asia, Europe, Americas(indigenous people). If through family admixture over time they can claim origins from more then one geographic region, state as much.

Now the next step up would be dealing in paternal/maternal ancestry, with general admixture coming next. Now I'm not asking for all that. I'm simply saying that I don't like going below geographical origins into the realm of phenotype. Especialy when you say "black" and they something silly like "not that kind of black".

So I don't beat around the bush. I just cut to the chase and say African. If I'm being specific African diaspora, continental African, African American, African Trini(Afro-trinidadian),etc. etc. I didn't state as much above because I felt it was already contextualized that I was referring to people from T&T. I just had to differentiate one group of "Black people" from the other group of "black people" cause they both fall in the same ranges and again I'm not playing the "not that kind of black people" terminology games.(not that you would go that rout, I'm speaking in generalities)


Side Question
Soooo ....am I "looking into this a bit too much" again :p

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Who is talking about prados? Are you telling me that there's no negros now? I'm excluding the prado pop, and there's 65 million. That's almost twice the size of your population including your biracials, combined.

a large percentage of the Afro-Brazilians you big upped for doing all those afrocentric things..........are in fact pardos

Those are the mixed race Brazilians that call themselves pardo. You're fukking clueless.

 

[Poitier]

Who is talking about prados? Are you telling me that there's no negros now? I'm excluding the prado pop, and there's 65 million. That's almost twice the size of your population including your biracials, combined.

there are only 14 mil who solely identify as black. 65 is not almost half of 44. Bahia has 15 mil wit 9 identifying as pardo.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

there are only 14 mil who solely identify as black. 65 is not almost half of 44. Bahia has 15 mil wit 9 identifying as pardo.

Then who I'm talking about.

 

[Cole Cash]

Brazil.