Afrobeats has better artists than reggae dancehall says music exec Murray Elias

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You know you're down bad as a Caribbean genre when Soca/Calypso has a better year overall than you In 2023.

Skeng does that bounce trap dancehall better than any of these new guys btw.
 

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I remember seeing all the hype around her and thinking she was straight garbage. Not one memorable song and I don't think she can sing at all.
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Shenseea is the best of that group.

They need the next round to come around pronto.
 

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New chapter in the diaspora wars just dropped
There is no war here. Every time a dancehall artist has spoken about this subject, beyond the incindiary headlines by shytty click grubbing media, has been nuanced and heartfelt takes about the obvious state of the industry.

The industry lost sight of some core fundamentals due to its proximity to a cost-cutting and click obsessed US industry.

The things making Afrobeats from Europe and Africa connect world wide is rooted in lessons learned.

Jamaica is very much a pan-Africanist nation. There is a call for people to get back to those roots versus chasing US style. And as shown by Afrobeats, that will make you more successful everywhere.
 

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I disagree.

Modern dancehalls problem is too much American influence. All the new artists are trying to emulate US rappers by doing so called Trap Danchehall :scust:

Reggae dancehall must remain traditional.


These 2 things are contradictory because there has never been any period of Jamaican Dancehall w/o overt American influences. Remember, what they call a Deejay in Jamaica came from Jamaican Toasting which came from Afram Jive




What many people think of as "traditional dancehall" is actually a product of what they call "Reggae Fusion"

Artists have been mixing reggae with other genres from as early as the early 1970s, but initially they were described using terms that joined the various genres they performed (e.g. "reggae funk", "reggae pop", "reggae-disco"). It was not until the late 1990s that the term "reggae fusion" was coined.[8]

The subgenre predominantly evolved from late 1980s and early 1990s dancehall music which instrumentals or "riddims" contained elements from the R&B and hip hop genres. Due to this, some consider dancehall artists such as Mad Cobra, Shabba Ranks, Super Cat, Buju Banton and Tony Rebel as pioneers of reggae fusion.[9] For some of these artists, among them Buju Banton, reggae fusion became a staple throughout their careers. However, reggae fusion can be traced back to before the success of these artists, as far back as the late 1970s and early 1980s, with such songs as "Pass the Dutchie", and the band Third World blazed the trail, finding international success with songs such as "Now That We Found Love" and "Try Jah Love".[10] Therefore, Third World can be seen as arguably the original pioneers of reggae fusion leading the way for groups such as UB40 and Steel Pulse.

so you would get something like


(a traditional beat)



(blended with hiphop type beats and R&B melodic stylings)

 

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it's not a matter of talent it's a matter of marketability

afrobeats artists friendlier/safer more ready for mainstream

dancehall got too much criminal gangster street related shyte tied in

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Facts and this goes for hip hop too. Which one of these genres can you play at a fundraiser and not have to worry about explicit language coming out?
 

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Afrobeats gotta knock out Trap music from the airwaves and the clubs.

Get rid of negativity from black music on the mainstream level.
ALSO, these countries legit ban negative music. People forget this. African nations will ban your shyt. For better or worse...
 

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ALSO, these countries legit ban negative music. People forget this. African nations will ban your shyt. For better or worse...

The numbers are there for the Sub-Saharan continent. Afrobeats continues to grow and its gonna overtake trap music in the airwaves in the next couple of years.
 

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You say this every year, its not happening.

Trap beats stagnated since 2016, and you think its gonna be this way for another 20 more years? 10? 5?

The fact that Afrobeats songs are being played in clubs down south as a healthier alternative to trap, is very telling. It ain't gonna shrink.
 
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