Afrocentricity vs. Homosexuality: The Isis Papers

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In most African and many asian countries, homosexuality is illegal. So fukk those nations.
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I wouldn't make it illegal........but who are we to judge if that is that nations laws and the people support the law more than the Government itself??

Why do they make it illegal? What is the justification?

India

Even Russia is anti gay
 

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I think we're done here. Im talking to a delusional man who needs to lie to himself to feel truth. :snoop:
You're bringing up shyt about Greeks as if tribes in Papua New Guinea don't exist :stopitslime:

We see through you.

You're a black dude with an asian white with an axe to grind against white people.

But hey, as long as you got to announce your rampant hatred for what consensual adults do in their own privacy, you think you've got an upper hand.

I've never seen someone use the word "fakkit" more than you on this site, and thats saying something.

You need help fam. Gays don't want shyt from you other than to live in peace.
 

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Name one legitimate black 'scholar' .....That someone couldn't pick apart.


and there is no blanket resentment of feminization within afrocentrism.... Understand that the resentment is when it affects the males - and the reason is because lack of real men is a plague.

There's no scholar that can't be picked apart, black, white, whatever. Understand that when I point out that Welsing's theory owes a large part to Freud, it's meant to be a very damning statement. Like literally the only places I've seen Freudian theory used in contemporary contexts is in literary and film analyses. This isn't just picking Welsing apart, this is me saying that's she's got no credibility, that her theories are flawed to begin with.

That's part of Welsing's argument. She's saying that black manhood is the primary target of white supremacy. Her theory centralizes black masculinity but her definition of masculinity is a very strict and narrow one. She even describes the weakening, which to her means effeminization and homosexuality, of black men along the same lines as a plague, as a disease, as an epidemic.
 

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I wouldn't make it illegal........but who are we to judge if that is that nations laws and the people support the law more than the Government itself??

Why do they make it illegal? What is the justification?

Even Russia is anti gay
Buh Because religion and because they're backwars. Whitey knows what the best morals are.
 

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I wouldn't make it illegal........but who are we to judge if that is that nations laws and the people support the law more than the Government itself??

Why do they make it illegal? What is the justification?

Even Russia is anti gay

Who am I to judge? I'm fukking ME.

I ACTIVELY judge other nations laws.

Theres no benefit in jailing and hurting non-violent citizens and then wonder why your society is so fukked.
 

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Who am I to judge? I'm fukking ME.

I ACTIVELY judge other nations laws.

Theres no benefit in jailing and hurting non-violent citizens and then wonder why your society is so fukked.
India..

Russia...


why are they this way? Congo, Sudan. etc.
 

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You're bringing up shyt about Greeks as if tribes in Papua New Guinea don't exist :stopitslime:

We see through you.

You're a black dude with an asian white with an axe to grind against white people.

But hey, as long as you got to announce your rampant hatred for what consensual adults do in their own privacy, you think you've got an upper hand.

I've never seen someone use the word "fakkit" more than you on this site, and thats saying something.

You need help fam. Gays don't want shyt from you other than to live in peace.
Once black people get back to family and stop allowing women to raise our boys homosexuality in the black community will be crushed as its a product of broke homes, emasculated men an child abuse.

Homosexuality is illegal in Papa New Guinea. They dont promote homoesxuality but there are homosexuals there. In greece, homosexuality was not only legal , it was promote from Children to adaults and promoted as logical based on works written in philosophy. Big difference. PROMOTED. White people dont promote homosexuality to black people because it helps us.
 

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I think we're done here. Im talking to a delusional man who needs to lie to himself to feel truth. :snoop:
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There's no scholar that can't be picked apart, black, white, whatever. Understand that when I point out that Welsing's theory owes a large part to Freud, it's meant to be a very damning statement. Like literally the only places I've seen Freudian theory used in contemporary contexts is in literary and film analyses. This isn't just picking Welsing apart, this is me saying that's she's got no credibility, that her theories are flawed to begin with.

That's part of Welsing's argument. She's saying that black manhood is the primary target of white supremacy. Her theory centralizes black masculinity but her definition of masculinity is a very strict and narrow one. She even describes the weakening, which to her means effeminization and homosexuality, of black men along the same lines as a plague, as a disease, as an epidemic.
Not all of her ideas are based in Freud. Even if some are.........she's formed her own brand at this point and has studied other ideas and mentioned other thinkers.

You actually believe that black masculinity isn't a target of white supremacy? There is actually 20th century ideas and propaganda in America that documents white attack on masculinity in the media , cartoons, and on with commercial products. There are slave records, There are unspoke laws during jim crow... there are social responsibility bills and welfare clauses, and even modern events and media that back her claims.

Even if she didn't say it, it should be obvious.
 

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Once black people get back to family and stop allowing women to raise our boys homosexuality in the black community will be crushed as its a product of broke homes, emasculated men an child abuse..

Yet you claimed that gays could exist purely without environmental influence...so there goes THAT argument. :stopitslime:

Homosexuality is illegal in Papa New Guinea. They dont promote homoesxuality but there are homosexuals there.
But its practiced independently of "white" influence, so whats your argument?

In greece, homosexuality was not only legal , it was promote from Children to adaults and promoted as logical based on works written in philosophy. Big difference. PROMOTED.
WHO CARES ABOUT fukkING GREECE?????????????

This is 2014.


White people dont promote homosexuality to black people because it helps us
Now you're dancing. :beli:

You JUST said they did. :snoop:
 

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Because they're conservative and religiously influenced nations (especially Russia with the resurgence of the Orthodoxy)

Humanity is judged by how you treat ALL citizens.

The people creating these laws in Russia aren't really religious....... and even if they were, nearly all lawmakers world wide who has passes laws protecting gays and giving them their 'rights'.... are religious. India isn't a big 3 religion type of place.... and Hindu isn't anti gay

Humanity is judged by whom sir?????:leon:

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Yet you claimed that gays could exist purely without environmental influence...so there goes THAT argument. :stopitslime:

But its practiced independently of "white" influence, so whats your argument?


WHO CARES ABOUT fukkING GREECE?????????????

This is 2014.



Now you're dancing. :beli:

You JUST said they did. :snoop:
My argument is the promotion of homosexuality, not what causes it because thats obvious and white people are the biggest promoters of homosexuality, around the world. When you teach homosexuality to elementary school children as an alternative to whats natural, thats promotion. When you tell another nation, we will not give you aid unless you promote homosexuality, thats promotion. When you rape boys and see no jail time, thats promotion. Thats the message you're sending. In Papa New Guinea homosexuality is seen as a problem, which is why its not promoted and is against the law

You are a white boy pretending to be black, promoting homosexuality, and thats a problem.

The influence of Greek/Roman culture still exist in European culture, unfortunately.
 
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Not all of her ideas are based in Freud. Even if some are.........she's formed her own brand at this point and has studied other ideas and mentioned other thinkers.

You actually believe that black masculinity isn't a target of white supremacy? There is actually 20th century ideas and propaganda in America that documents white attack on masculinity in the media , cartoons, and on with commercial products. There are slave records, There are unspoke laws during jim crow... there are social responsibility bills and welfare clauses, and even modern events and media that back her claims.

Even if she didn't say it, it should be obvious.

I think the moment it becomes evident that she's engaging in Freudian pseudo-analysis is the moment I question her credibility, regardless of whether or not she's also incorporating other thinkers.

The problem with Welsing is that to her, black masculinity is the PRIMARY target of white supremacy. Everything revolves around masculinity, it is the end all be all for her. I don't deny for a second that masculinity isn't a target of white supremacy. You see this with other races too, where Asian men are portrayed as either feminine or asexual, as a contrast to the masculine Occident. Again, Welsing's writing centralizes black masculinity. This to me is the wrong approach. Oppression is operating on many different levels on many different ways. Centralizing it like this dismisses anything that falls outside of her model, which is supposed to be predictable and easy to understand.

That she couches her pseudo-theories in an understanding of African-American history makes it (understandably) extremely attractive to some people. There's a very good reading of Welsing by Essex Hemphill where he states that "[h]er theory is very seductive, particularly for Black people oppressed for so long. It is very much like cocaine; a dose of her ideas momentarily provides one with a rush of empowerment, but after the high is gone the harsh realities of racism still remain, just as sexual diversity, as created by nature, still remains irrevocable, uncontrollable." (The Columbia Reader on Lesbians and Gay Men in Media, Society, and Politics - Google Books)
 

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I think the moment it becomes evident that she's engaging in Freudian pseudo-analysis is the moment I question her credibility, regardless of whether or not she's also incorporating other thinkers.

The problem with Welsing is that to her, black masculinity is the PRIMARY target of white supremacy. Everything revolves around masculinity, it is the end all be all for her. I don't deny for a second that masculinity isn't a target of white supremacy. You see this with other races too, where Asian men are portrayed as either feminine or asexual, as a contrast to the masculine Occident. Again, Welsing's writing centralizes black masculinity. This to me is the wrong approach. Oppression is operating on many different levels on many different ways. Centralizing it like this dismisses anything that falls outside of her model, which is supposed to be predictable and easy to understand.

That she couches her pseudo-theories in an understanding of African-American history makes it (understandably) extremely attractive to some people. There's a very good reading of Welsing by Essex Hemphill where he states that "[h]er theory is very seductive, particularly for Black people oppressed for so long. It is very much like cocaine; a dose of her ideas momentarily provides one with a rush of empowerment, but after the high is gone the harsh realities of racism still remain, just as sexual diversity, as created by nature, still remains irrevocable, uncontrollable." (The Columbia Reader on Lesbians and Gay Men in Media, Society, and Politics - Google Books)
Who theories on race are better? Who theories should we be reading?
 
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