After coming up on this Macbook Pro... Macs > PC's

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Everything is just I ended up having to cop a new OS and the price was

I made a few threads about coming up on this macbook pro at my job. I won't be enabling location services or icloud but the experience so far has been piff. I'm still exploring software options. installed my first two bootlegged software (MS Office and Final Cut Pro) and they worked with ease. The overall user experiece is great. I'm gonna still keep my PC but i'm in love with this macbook pro

 

[A.J.Soprano]

nobody games on a mac

 

[Jone2three45]

Welcome to the club.

 

[The Frozen One]

Everything is just I ended up having to cop a new OS and the price was

I made a few threads about coming up on this macbook pro at my job. I won't be enabling location services or icloud but the experience so far has been piff. I'm still exploring software options. installed my first two bootlegged software (MS Office and Final Cut Pro) and they worked with ease. The overall user experiece is great. I'm gonna still keep my PC but i'm in love with this macbook pro

no need to keep your PC breh unless you use it for gaming purposes.

Install Parallels Desktop and

 

[yseJ]

macs are good systems, my main problem with macs is this

I dont see where they fit into my world

if I want to game, windows is still the best system by far.

if I want to do programming or networking (not social networking) Id hop on on linux/some unix flavor that isnt ui-heavy.

basically while macs are good systems at the end of the day they dont accomplish as either side of a spectrum for me.

and to browse net and bullshyt around like most consumers do, macs are incredibly overpriced. can accomplish same shyt for much, much cheaper.

so in conclusion, if you have lots of spare money and like the aesthetics and dont do heavy gaming/serious programming/editing, etc (well, audio editing is pretty good on a mac) it might be a system for you

 

[StatUS]

Never noticed the difference. Macbook cases are just made with better parts.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

the only game I play on my pc laptop is fifa other than that i'm not a gamer. I'm using the mac for graphic design and video editing work. I wish their app game was on par with the iPhone but its close enough. Right now i'm trying to find the Adobe Suite because I ain't about to pay $1600.

I don't think this is a Retina. The Model is A1286. I'm gonna still keep my PC though It's running Window's 8 and even though I love it over 7, I'm still over Mountain Lion.

 

[Ayo]

if I want to do programming or networking (not social networking) Id hop on on linux/some unix flavor that isnt ui-heavy.

dont do heavy gaming/serious programming/editing, etc (well, audio editing is pretty good on a mac) it might be a system for you

You sound like someone who has never used a Mac.

I'm guessing you've never used Terminal? Bash shell with all of the standard Unix utilities. Built in SSH. You'd need about 3 or 4 Windows programs combined just to mimic the functionality and it would still be half assed.

Plus, it comes with an Apache2 server built in. Allowing you to run a LAMP dev environment out of the box. JAVA, SVN, PYTHON, PEARL, PHP, Prolog, Objective C, RUBY support/compilers OUT OF THE BOX. Downloading X-Code for free gives you access to pretty much everything else you'd ever need (every flavor/jumpoff/variation/spinoff of C). EMacs has an OS X version.

You don't even need an internet connection or any 3rd party software to start developing/programming. You're going to be hard pressed to even find a stock Linux flavor with all of that supported OUT OF THE BOX.

Mac OS X is built on top of FreeBSD. You have access to pretty much every command line tool you do on Linux or UNIX. Check the countless threads across the web comparing Terminal to Linux's offering. They are neck and neck. And anyway....having a GUI doesn't make you any less of a programmer. Do you actually believe that nonsense???

Sure, you can set up a Windows or Linux box to do the same things with an hour or two of work...but OS X comes with this functionality from the jump. This stuff is built into the OS. Not tacked on. Most of the Valley's big companies give their employees Macbook Pro's. Google and Facebook's developers develop on them for a reason. Quality of the hardware and the solid UNIX foundation that OS X provides.

And I'm not quite sure what you mean about "editing." You'd be hard pressed to find a movie studio that hasn't cut with Final Cut Pro at one point or a music producer who doesn't use a Mac Pro or Macbook Pro.

I won't even get started on the "networking" comment you made. I've solved Active Directory problems in the past using my Macbook Pro. That's about the only vendor specific networking item I could think of that would usually be considered incompatible with the Macbook Pro. What other "networking" are you talking about that the Mac isn't good at?

 

[yseJ]

I'm guessing you've never used Terminal? Bash shell with all of the standard Unix utilities. Built in SSH. Mac OS X is built on top of FreeBSD. You have access to pretty much every command line tool you do on Linux or UNIX. Having a GUI doesn't make you any less of a programmer.

Plus, it comes with an Apache2 server built in. Allowing you to run a LAMP dev environment out of the box. JAVA, SVN, PYTHON, PEARL, PHP, Prolog, Objective C, RUBY support/compilers OUT OF THE BOX. Downloading X-Code for free gives you access to pretty much everything else youd ever need.

You're going to be hard pressed to even find a Linux flavor with all of that supported OUT OF THE BOX.

EMacs works on a Mac. TextMate is exclusive and amazing. Sublime works.

Sure, you can set up a Windows or Linux box to do the same things with an hour or two of work...but OS X comes with this functionality from the jump. Most of the Valley's big companies give their employees Macbook Pro's. Google and Facebook's developers develop on them for a reason.

I know what mac is, Ive used a mac before and I obviously used terminal. cmon b

one of the problems is programs compiled for linux , most of them if not all will actually have to be recompiled for mac to run. that actually is a ton of linux utils that ALL have to be recompiled.

also, no one...and I mean no one will ever use osx as an actual server of any kind. whereas linux is built for that shyt.

also I dont care for out of the box functionality. if a programmer wants shyt out of box hes not a real programmer

 

[yseJ]

aw here we go again with this bullshyt

so because I think macs little unix flavor is inferior to linux or solaris in terms of system programming and networking, Ive never used a mac. great logic

 

[Ayo]

aw here we go again with this bullshyt

so because I think macs little unix flavor is inferior to linux or solaris in terms of system programming and networking, Ive never used a mac. great logic

No. You said that Macs weren't good for programming. You saw my response. Let's not try to minimize this to the first sentence.

And now this has become about "system programming"? Oh and do you want to reference some specific networking tools that are exclusive to solaris and linux?

someone has an opinion that differs from yours and they brought facts. why does that upset you?

 

[Ayo]

I know what mac is, Ive used a mac before and I obviously used terminal. cmon b

one of the problems is programs compiled for linux , most of them if not all will actually have to be recompiled for mac to run. that actually is a ton of linux utils that ALL have to be recompiled.

also, no one...and I mean no one will ever use osx as an actual server of any kind. whereas linux is built for that shyt.

also I dont care for out of the box functionality. if a programmer wants shyt out of box hes not a real programmer

the apache2 server in mac os x is there for local development environments. not there to run a live production server.

I run a Debian server (unmanaged) over at RackSpace. I know what's appropriate and what's not.

 

[StatUS]

And I'm not quite sure what you mean about "editing." You'd be hard pressed to find a movie studio that hasn't cut with Final Cut Pro at one point or a music producer who doesn't use a Mac Pro or Macbook Pro.

I don't know about that programming stuff but video and audio doesn't matter what OS you use. FCPX is great and I'd cop a Mac if that's what you're feeling but Media Composer and Premiere Pro are used alot too. And on the audio/music all those DAWs work the same on each platform.

The thing about Macs isn't the software really it's the third party peripherals that company's sell for it. From what I've seen they are usually higher quality than the PC counterparts.

 

[Ayo]

I don't know about that programming stuff but video and audio doesn't matter what OS you use. FCPX is great and I'd cop a Mac if that's what you're feeling but Media Composer and Premiere Pro are used alot too. And on the audio/music all those DAWs work the same on each platform.

The thing about Macs isn't the software really it's the third party peripherals that company's sell for it. From what I've seen they are usually higher quality than the PC counterparts.

Ya I know. Apple kind of fukked up with Final Cut Pro with the latest update. But the pro's are still cutting on it. Avid still holds ground as #1 and pretty much always will. I couldn't tell you what hardware Avid users prefer to cut on though. Media Composer is available for OS X too.

Premiere Pro has yet to have a big budget motion pic cut on it from A to Z (lower budget and some parts of big budget). Adobe is trying though and it's getting better and better. Though it is available on OS X, Adobe is trying to stare it's Premiere/After Effects customers towards HP Workstations. If they can get them to invest in PC hardware they are less likely to go back to Final Cut Pro because they'd have to buy Macs all over again.

As far as Audio editing I think it just comes down to hardware preference. And by the looks of most video/pics coming out of studios that preference is Apple hardware.

 

[Ayo]

I'm not here to stan for Apple. I do own a MBP but I just replaced my Dell Workstation Desktop with a full rack mountable Dell server (a gift/donation) with 64gb of RAM running Ubuntu and Windows 7. I do a lot of work with Active Directory. I manage my own live Linux server for clients.

I have no horse in the game. Just here to clear up some of the nonsense that gets thrown around about OS X.