After rewatching The Wire, I think it's safe to say Stringer>Avon.

[Barack Dracobama]

Where is the Italian mob now?

bruh they survived for like 50 years untouched, nikkas cant even control 10 blocks for a year without bullshyt, esp in this day and age. N the wire is hella overrated, stringer was too smart for his own good n avon wasnt smart enough, them nikkas shoulda been molded into 1 person

 

[Roid Jones]

Avon and Marlo knew what Stringer didn't about the game. It's illegal and savage, therefore cannot be played on the up and up or like a legal rational business.

Basically, this ends the thread

 

[AnonymityX1000]

bruh they survived for like 50 years untouched, nikkas cant even control 10 blocks for a year without bullshyt, esp in this day and age. N the wire is hella overrated, stringer was too smart for his own good n avon wasnt smart enough, them nikkas shoulda been molded into 1 person

Untouched? Do you know how many times Commission family members flipped on each other?! It wasn't some lovefest and they still caught alot of cases from law enforcement to.

 

[Tasha And]

avon seen marl's bullshyt from a mile away



stringer on the other hand


the co-op was weak too

Avon only got one up on Marlo after getting locked up and officially taking that L in the drug war. He underestimated Marlo too, he had dumb nikkas getting clapped even though they had the drop on Marlo's goons


and he def tried it with that weak ass shyt with DevonneBruh caught a hot one in the shoulder over that

Ain't no revisionist history here, pretending like Avon saw that youngins rise from a mile away. Both Stringer and Avon failed to recognize who and what Marlo was until way after the fact.

 

[Pseudo]

Where is the Italian mob now?

Until the Baltimore police start giving a damn about anything except murder they'll worry about that other stuff.

If McNulty was a narcotics cop instead of a homicide cop it would have been the drugs. He is the reason the police went after Avon.

The higher ups would have given him the if he did. The only reason they even bothered with the case was because the Barksdales got away with murder.

D said it himself. "It's the bodies that be bringing the cops"

 

[Roid Jones]

Stringer was nothing more than book smart without the strength or guile to operate in either worlds for a sustained period.

 

[zayk35]

People seem to forget Avon sold Stringer out as well. Why? Because he messing with his money. The same reason Stringer sold him out.

Nah Avon had to either way brother Mouzone was coming for String....that is the street shyt.... he didn't put the police on him like Stringer did

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Until the Baltimore police start giving a damn about anything except murder they'll worry about that other stuff.



The higher ups would have given him the if he did. The only reason they even bothered with case was because Barksdales got away with murder.

D said it himself. "It's the bodies that be bringing the cops"

Uh, he stepped to one judge and he made everything happen. If he explained the drug situation which at Avon's level always involves murder Commission or not they would eventually get knocked.
A crime commission is good for the Commission only, not the individual members. Yes, Italians had one for decades but individuals still got knocked by the authorities and murdered by their rivals while the Commission just changed leadership and continued. It's like Russian Roulette for the individual tho.

 

[Barack Dracobama]

Untouched? Do you know how many times Commission family members flipped on each other?! It wasn't some lovefest and they still caught alot of cases from law enforcement to.

they were literally eating steaks in prison bruh, that shyt they put in mafia movies was real, bosses werent for the most part gettin locked up heavy until the late 70s/80s, n even then they still had more power than any of these "street nikkas", the mafia was the most powerful crime organization in usa history, that shytvwas neverva "lovefest" it was always grimeyn you hadda worry about snitches but that donnie brasco shyt, thats when shut started to really fall apart.... AND EVEN THEN, they still had unmatchable clout with snitching being on the rise, only ppl with power close to that in the 80s were gangs like the gangster disciples

 

[Pseudo]

Stringer was nothing more than book smart without the strength or guile to operate in either worlds for a sustained period.

But the Barksdale organization flourished under Stringer breh. Their main problem was lack of muscle and that's on Avon.

He was dropping bodies and he pissed off Omar which eventually led to their downfall. If he had listened to Stringer in the first place Omar would have been dead and both Bird and Stinkum would have been untouched.

 

[Pseudo]

Uh, he stepped to one judge and he made everything happen. If he explained the drug situation which at Avon's level always involves murder Commission or not they would eventually get knocked.
A crime commission is good for the Commission only, not the individual members. Yes, Italians had one for decades but individuals still got knocked by the authorities and murdered by their rivals while the Commission just changed leadership and continued. It's like Russian Roulette for the individual tho.

Breh when Rawls was berating Mcnulty at the end of episode one, what exactly was he mad about? The fact that " some project ****** beat his unit out of ten murders".

The judge was overseeing a murder case. That's the reason he brought Mcnulty in.

 

[Ol’Otis]

Avon failed to recognize who and what Marlo was until way after the fact.

n*gga please

barksdale org was having an internal crisis
Avon knew it wasn't no sitting down with Marlo
he didn't even know who the fukk who he was

All of Avon shooters was locked up or dead
Marlo had luck on his side and he knew
even WeeBey put it out there they would've Marlo tagged

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Breh when Rawls was berating Mcnulty at the end of episode one, what exactly was he mad about? The fact that " some project ****** beat his unit out of ten murders".

The judge was overseeing a murder case. That's the reason he brought Mcnulty in.

Fine, I'm saying murder is just part of the program, fighting for turf, intimidating witnesses, getting retribution for thieves. Having a commission sounds like it might reduce the rate but it will never eliminate it because the problems mentioned are always there. Plus, you are talking about all your illegal business activity problems in a forum. That opens you up to surveillance and snitching. As an individual in this game it would be detrimental.

 

[Tasha And]

n*gga please

barksdale org was having an internal crisis
Avon knew it wasn't no sitting down with Marlo
he didn't even know who the fukk who he was

All of Avon shooters was locked up or dead
Marlo had luck on his side and he knew
even WeeBey put it out there they would've Marlo tagged

Exactly the point.

You can't say he saw Marlo from a mile away when he treated him like some lil nikka that was gonna back down from him off name alone. He didn't peep game when Marlo stepped off the corner initially. He was like "I thought the brother had my heart than that" and stepped right into the booby trap.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

they were literally eating steaks in prison bruh, that shyt they put in mafia movies was real, bosses werent for the most part gettin locked up heavy until the late 70s/80s, n even then they still had more power than any of these "street nikkas", the mafia was the most powerful crime organization in usa history, that shytvwas neverva "lovefest" it was always grimeyn you hadda worry about snitches but that donnie brasco shyt, thats when shut started to really fall apart.... AND EVEN THEN, they still had unmatchable clout with snitching being on the rise, only ppl with power close to that in the 80s were gangs like the gangster disciples

Avon was eating well in prison to man. Guys like Avon and Marlo are not interested in influence with politicians that's how you get the super big target on your back. They saw it, Stringer didn't.