After spiraling street crime & a prison massacre, Honduras' anti-gang tactics mirror El Salvador's/* Ecuador also

[Swahili P'Bitek]

If you are from a 3rd world country, you know how gangs or organised crime mostly operate due to cashflow constraints. The drug market isn't that reliable locally so most turn to extortion/robbery and enforce their right to extort with extreme violence, like demonic levels of violence.These extortions mainly affect lower income and middle class business people, and turn communities that had the potential to thrive into ghost towns. So from an economic perspective, what he is doing should bear some fruits after a while, regardless of the human rights that he is violating.

 

[Hoodoo Child]

This are genuine hell holes and scary places to live . Imaging raising up a child in that environment. We should count ourselves blessed that we aren't forced to live in such conditions.

You can thank the CIA

 

[DaRealness]

Jamaica next hopefully round them up

I agree. fukk 'em. Too many returnees and civilians been murdered by those criminal pieces of shyt with zero respect for human life and it's got nothing to do with hunger or survival either.

IDGAF if they're rounded up somewhere and get a nuke dropped on them if it means the civilians can live in peace and Jamaica can become liveable and flourish again.

 

[Mowgli]

If you are from a 3rd world country, you know how gangs or organised crime mostly operate due to cashflow constraints. The drug market isn't that reliable locally so most turn to extortion/robbery and enforce their right to extort with extreme violence, like demonic levels of violence.These extortions mainly affect lower income and middle class business people, and turn communities that had the potential to thrive into ghost towns. So from an economic perspective, what he is doing should bear some fruits after a while, regardless of the human rights that he is violating.

Criminals are parasites of success

 

[get these nets]

who are my thought leaders you dumb reactionary motherfukker? you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Bukele is a corrupt populist narcissist. His concern is not the wellbeing of his country, but the wellbeing of the oligarchy and the upper-middle classes. He made a deal with the maras to get himself elected. He then reneged on that deal, causing violent uprisings. As a result, he issued a state of emergency and now has security forces kill and arrest the poor, claiming they are all gangmembers. This is like sending riot squats into Chicago and arresting every black person between the ages of 16 and 35 and then proclaiming you successfully solved the gang issue. And you've got idiots in here saying the US should follow the same approach. This whole tough on crime nonsense in the 80s and 90's resulted in the mass incarceration of black men without solving the problem. You need to be either completely clueless or a cac to applaud this shyt.

The crackdown was a direct response to an extreme outburst of violence. Extreme even by Salvadoran standards.
In developing countries, organizations with power has to be addressed on some level during elections. Including open criminal orgs. sometimes.
If your take is that the gangs held up to their end of agreements and kept the violence down, and that it was the president who double crossed them......you're putting a lot of faith in hundreds of gang members who routinely traffick drugs, extort, murder, rape and kill.

Reducing the homicide and crime rate benefits people from all segments of society, from the oligarch families to the people who live in the hotspots where the violence had suffocated their lives and movement. Certain that commerce has improved with regular Salvadorans able to move more freely.

The level of violence in some countries and regions is worse than what you could imagine, and the counter to it from the state is going to be aggressive.That's just reality.

 

[HiphopRelated]

The crackdown was a direct response to an extreme outburst of violence. Extreme even by Salvadoran standards.
In developing countries, organizations with power has to be addressed on some level during elections. Including open criminal orgs. sometimes.
If your take is that the gangs held up to their end of agreements and kept the violence down, and that it was the president who double crossed them......you're putting a lot of faith in hundreds of gang members who routinely traffick drugs, extort, murder, rape and kill.

Reducing the homicide and crime rate benefits people from all segments of society, from the oligarch families to the people who live in the hotspots where the violence had suffocated their lives and movement. Certain that commerce has improved with regular Salvadorans able to move more freely.

The level of violence in some countries and regions is worse than what you could imagine, and the counter to it from the state is going to be aggressive.That's just reality.

Exactly, you don't make deals with these types of gangs. As long as the leadership is still in tact any "cool down" is basically stock taking and rearming. Any random incident can kick off reprisals and you're back at square 1. These elements need to be cut out root and stem. There is no socio economic help for a dude with 30 bodies. Too many people want him off Earth.

 

[get these nets]

Drug cartels unleash wave of violence in Ecuador​

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Jan 10, 2024
Ecuador's president has declared a state of emergency and warned that the country has entered an “internal armed conflict” due to the drug gang violence. Violence in Ecuador has unleashed a wave of terror among the population

 

[Damnshow]

Noooo, not the Ecuadooooor

 

[get these nets]

Jan 12, 2023

Ecuadorian community in Queens burdened by unrest, violence thousand of miles away

Renee Barzola, the owner of Barzola's Restaurant in Jackson Heights, Queens, says his family in Ecuador is on his mind amid violence in South America.

abc7ny.com

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Good, what Nayib Bukele is doin for El Salvador is

Son got all them gangs out there under PRESSURE

He drops 5mic verses damn near every speech too



It’s the best way for countries with severe gang problems to heal

I fukk with this heavy.

 

[Neuromancer]

Good, what Nayib Bukele is doin for El Salvador is

Son got all them gangs out there under PRESSURE

He drops 5mic verses damn near every speech too



It’s the best way for countries with severe gang problems to heal

He's not wrong I guess. But attacking the root problem which is poverty and probably capitalism. But that's not possible.

 

[Fill Collins]

People from third world countries want this, and if it keeps them from emigrating, even better

 

[get these nets]

Jan 15, 2023

'People are scared': The new outburst of narco-cartel violence plaguing Ecuador

Miami-Dade Councilman Christian Cevallos tells The South Florida Roundup the gang violence in Ecuador that suddenly grabbed headlines had been building up for several years. A lack of democratic institutions and the demand in the U.S. and Europe for cocaine are key factors.

www.wlrn.org

 

[get these nets]

Ecuador’s President Daniel Noboa interviewed by Christiane Amanpour 01/17/23

 

[cleanface coney]

From what I been hearing El Salvador is the future