AFTER THAT DEAN AMBROSE VIGNETTE

[Art Barr]

it has become more apparent that the WWE screwed us.
after Daniel Bryan went down.
we could right now, be in ambrosia.
on some no brainer type shyt.
if the WWE just booked Ambrose the way the numbers say to for a character like this with the rocket on his back.

THANKS, WWE,....
CHU HO!!!!!


ART BARR

 

[JoogJoint]

I'll never understand the hype around Dean Ambrose. I don't hate him nor dislike him, he's just there for me. Seth is where it's at right now.

The comparisons to:
Mankind/Mick Foley
Roddy "Rowdy" Piper
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Stone Cold Steve Austin (some have suggested that he should take the stunner from SCSA)
Brian Pillman
Sting (Yes, somebody even said maybe Dean should take Sting's makeup ideas from him)

Gotta STOP.

Before anybody jumps down my throat or neg me, when The Shield got started he had his push over Roman and Seth (I don't see how anybody can deny this). When The Shield first came onto the scene, the only person people gave a damn about and the only person that was given the push first was DEAN, not Seth...not even Roman, but DEAN. All people ever talked about how he was going to be the "savior" of the WWE, Seth and Roman were just background props. That's how it was originally. Now that Seth has surpassed in every aspect, it's WWE's fault, with Roman it's different...even though Vince writes his corny ass material and booking himself, people still blame Roman for everything. Also I did check out Dean Ambrose's indie stuff and still wasn't impressed. No I'm not "hatin," but I just find that he's greatly overrated by the IWC and his potential. Even though I'm not a fan of his, they could do better with his booking as of lately, no I don't think Roman has it any better right now (come on now, he's saying corny sh_t and feuding with The Big Slow and you guys STILL think he's Vince's "golden boy"?!).

If you guys don't think Dean Ambrose got a fair deal before Seth and Roman started to surpass him, then maybe you need to go back and watch them in action when they first premiered. Like I said before, I was clowned because I liked Seth more than Dean and even Roman to a degre...now look at the kid. He's doing big things.

 

[prophecypro]

They pushed him earlier but I think people were still trying to figure out how to react to the Lunatic Fringe character. He seems to have settled into it now but they've got him losing matches while being one of the 7 or 8 important wrestlers in the company

 

[Art Barr]

I'll never understand the hype around Dean Ambrose. I don't hate him nor dislike him, he's just there for me. Seth is where it's at right now.

The comparisons to:
Mankind/Mick Foley
Roddy "Rowdy" Piper
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Stone Cold Steve Austin (some have suggested that he should take the stunner from SCSA)
Brian Pillman
Sting (Yes, somebody even said maybe Dean should take Sting's makeup ideas from him)

Gotta STOP.

Before anybody jumps down my throat or neg me, when The Shield got started he had his push over Roman and Seth (I don't see how anybody can deny this). When The Shield first came onto the scene, the only person people gave a damn about and the only person that was given the push first was DEAN, not Seth...not even Roman, but DEAN. All people ever talked about how he was going to be the "savior" of the WWE, Seth and Roman were just background props. That's how it was originally. Now that Seth has surpassed in every aspect, it's WWE's fault, with Roman it's different...even though Vince writes his corny ass material and booking himself, people still blame Roman for everything. Also I did check out Dean Ambrose's indie stuff and still wasn't impressed. No I'm not "hatin," but I just find that he's greatly overrated by the IWC and his potential. Even though I'm not a fan of his, they could do better with his booking as of lately, no I don't think Roman has it any better right now (come on now, he's saying corny sh_t and feuding with The Big Slow and you guys STILL think he's Vince's "golden boy"?!).

If you guys don't think Dean Ambrose got a fair deal before Seth and Roman started to surpass him, then maybe you need to go back and watch them in action when they first premiered. Like I said before, I was clowned because I liked Seth more than Dean and even Roman to a degre...now look at the kid. He's doing big things.

dean is lightning in a bottle.
when, booked correctly.
anyone, who knows the history of the Indy heroes who saved wrasslin.
already knew Rollins was that guy.
I been praising the kid religious for five plus years now.
regardless, dean getting the initial push was them recognizing the immediate thing in their way of doing things.
which usually revolve around non-work related things.
with Seth, anyone in the know knew as long as the draw for the shield would go that Seth would eventually do what he has done jn every promotion.
fight the war of attrition in booking, all grapplers go through and windup at the top of the card.
so, it is no mystery Rollins is where he is.
yet, and still....
by what wwe usually goes for.
dean initially and still is the big star.
who can pick up where the Indy heroes who saved wrasslin are at in the wwe.
then, possibly revert the pg WWE by his character to a more sandman friendly meets raven/brian pillman sociopathic hero .
that dean has in buckets talentwise.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

They pushed him earlier but I think people were still trying to figure out how to react to the Lunatic Fringe character. He seems to have settled into it now but they've got him losing matches while being one of the 7 or 8 important wrestlers in the company

duke in one promo took the kane/db psyche schtick and equaled it by just saying Thursday at the top of the vignette.
not to mention just the completely brilliant sociopathic aloofness acting while engaged one word answer dialogue.

like this kid, is there next sports entertainment cashcow.
if they booked it right.
with db out for eight months, we should have been in the fringe.
I think if it was booked more accurately we would have four larger superstars in the WWE in twelve months created. those being all of the shield as singles stars and db's permeation to the top of the card.


Art Barr

 

[JoogJoint]

dean is lightning in a bottle.
when, booked correctly.
anyone, who knows the history of the Indy heroes who saved wrasslin.
already knew Rollins was that guy.
I been praising the kid religious for five plus years now.
regardless, dean getting the initial push was them recognizing the immediate thing in their way of doing things.
which usually revolve around non-work related things.
with Seth, anyone in the know knew as long as the draw for the shield would go that Seth would eventually do what he has done jn every promotion.
fight the war of attrition in booking, all grapplers go through and windup at the top of the card.
so, it is no mystery Rollins is where he is.
yet, and still....
by what wwe usually goes for.
dean initially and still is the big star.
who can pick up where the Indy heroes who saved wrasslin are at in the wwe.
then, possibly revert the pg WWE by his character to a more sandman friendly meets raven/brian pillman sociopathic hero .
that dean has in buckets talentwise.


Art Barr

I just don't like when people assume that Dean has always had bad booking when they can see that he was highly favored when he burst onto the seen around his FCW/NXT run, he was made "the leader" of The Shield, was in a great angle with Seth, got the first championship, was set to work with legends as a WWE rookie, etc. I just could go on and on, but people insist Dean was booked to be a scrub the whole time, but Dean to some degree is blamed because he acted like he didn't give f_ck half the time, came in sloppy, wasn't interesting, and I heard how his attitude was backstage when he first started.

 

[Art Barr]

I just don't like when people assume that Dean has always had bad booking when they can see that he was highly favored when he burst onto the seen around his FCW/NXT run, he was made "the leader" of The Shield, was in a great angle with Seth, got the first championship, was set to work with legends as a WWE rookie, etc. I just could go on and on, but people insist Dean was booked to be a scrub the whole time, but Dean to some degree is blamed because he acted like he didn't give f_ck half the time, came in sloppy, wasn't interesting, and I heard how his attitude was backstage when he first started.

we all know they dropped the ball initially with dean's us title run.
yet, and still....
you fix it.
nwa fukked up with sting's run all through his career.
in this instance, you may not get another chance like the nwa got numerous times with sting because of their inept bullshyt.
the WWE has to get it right becaus the longer they go.
with bad results, the harder it is in general to repair the damage from their low quality.
with Ambrose, he could always be rejuvenated.
yet, why keep.damaging a commodity with that much potential.
do it right the next time, this time.


Art Barr

 

[JoogJoint]

we all know they dropped the ball initially with dean's us title run.
yet, and still....
you fix it.
nwa fukked up with sting's run all through his career.
in this instance, you may not get another chance like the nwa got numerous times with sting because of their inept bullshyt.
the WWE has to get it right becaus the longer they go.
with bad results, the harder it is in general to repair the damage from their low quality.
with Ambrose, he could always be rejuvenated.
yet, why keep.damaging a commodity with that much potential.
do it right the next time, this time.


Art Barr

No they didn't. That was Dean going through his coke phase. He was really out of control during that time period. Also it's been said that the higher ups didn't like that Dean would throw around his US Championship like trash.

So we're going to act like when he came back after doing that movie, he wasn't hogging the spotlight on RAW consistently for weeks, huh? He was given MANY chances, but didn't live up to the hype. This is before they started booking him into a goofball.

 

[The Wall Brother]

No they didn't. That was Dean going through his coke phase. He was really out of control during that time period. Also it's been said that the higher ups didn't like that Dean would throw around his US Championship like trash.

So we're going to act like when he came back after doing that movie, he wasn't hogging the spotlight on RAW consistently for weeks, huh? He was given MANY chances, but didn't live up to the hype. This is before they started booking him into a goofball.

Didn't live up to the hype? He was consistently getting the biggest pops during that period. How can you even deny that?

What killed his heat was getting beaten every single PPV by Seth and then put into a feud with Bray Wyatt who hasn't been the same since he was buried(literally) by Cena. Of course his heat died out from that feud. No one wanted to see that feud. Everyone has cooled off of Bray. And just like with Seth, he didn't even get a single win over Bray in their feud.

Just because you're a huge Roman fangirl/stan doesn't mean you need to speak nonsense. Trash talking Ambrose and everyone else on the roster ain't gonna give your boy Reigns more charisma or make him better in the ring.

 

[Art Barr]

No they didn't. That was Dean going through his coke phase. He was really out of control during that time period. Also it's been said that the higher ups didn't like that Dean would throw around his US Championship like trash.

So we're going to act like when he came back after doing that movie, he wasn't hogging the spotlight on RAW consistently for weeks, huh? He was given MANY chances, but didn't live up to the hype. This is before they started booking him into a goofball.

unless, dean or the WWE reported an actual drug issue and it is a fact.
I really don't move off to many dirtsheet style situations or explanations/speculation.

regardless of the situation, the WWE fukked it up.


that is where the blame is placed.


Art Barr

 

[The Wall Brother]

unless, dean or the WWE reported an actual drug issue and it is a fact.
I really don't move off to many dirtsheet style situations or explanations/speculation.

regardless of the situation, the WWE fukked it up.


that is where the blame is placed.


Art Barr

I haven't seen any dirtsheets in these past months mentioning anything about Dean using drugs. Seems like to me.

 

[Killer Instinct]

So we're going to act like when he came back after doing that movie, he wasn't hogging the spotlight on RAW consistently for weeks, huh? He was given MANY chances, but didn't live up to the hype. This is before they started booking him into a goofball

This is a bunch of contrived b/s because you're invested in your boy Reigns.
"Hogging the spotlight."

There's more to that roster than Roman Reigns, who a lot of his fans seem to be becoming more & more infatuated with the closer we get to the Rumble and the more it seems like he may not be winning in Philly on the 25th.
Ambrose, not Rollins or Reigns, was the most over out of that trio after the split.
He was getting the reactions that they needed desperately for Reigns to get.
Dean took everyone by surprise because no one expected him to build that sort of rapport as a babyface.
It wasn't until after the brass had him squirting ketchup and mustard, OD'ing on the "I'm crazy," schtick, working with mannequin dummies, and losing every feud and match, that his momentum began to wane.
The revisionist history is hilarious.
All the way down from Bryan to now Dean, you've been downplaying and piling on.
As much potential as your boy Roman has, he'd be fortunate to connect a fraction as much with the fans organically as the two aforementioned.
Even with the ridiculous segments and losses, fans are still backing Dean.
The fact of the matter is that he was objectively better suited to be in the title picture than Reigns was.
He may not be as pretty to you, but Dean was objectively more over, a better worker, and a better talker after that split.
That isn't an opinion - that's a fact.

 

[Heelish]

No they didn't. That was Dean going through his coke phase. He was really out of control during that time period.

at least link a source. Clean Ambrose is a changed man

 

[Modsbanme]

Dean is the sandman without a kendo stick and beer, don't forget he was CZW , he is a much better version of Sandman, he has a place in the company and maybe one day he will rise to an A plus player. Now, he is exactly where he is supposed to be.

 

[thenatural]

nikkas really think he's on drugs?

If you can't remember the star potential with Ambrose when he started the feud with Rollins, then the WWE is succeeding in brainwashing fans into believing their bullshyt.