AFTER THAT DEAN AMBROSE VIGNETTE

[JoogJoint]

Didn't live up to the hype? He was consistently getting the biggest pops during that period. How can you even deny that?

What killed his heat was getting beaten every single PPV by Seth and then put into a feud with Bray Wyatt who hasn't been the same since he was buried(literally) by Cena. Of course his heat died out from that feud. No one wanted to see that feud. Everyone has cooled off of Bray. And just like with Seth, he didn't even get a single win over Bray in their feud.

Just because you're a huge Roman fangirl/stan doesn't mean you need to speak nonsense. Trash talking Ambrose and everyone else on the roster ain't gonna give your boy Reigns more charisma or make him better in the ring.

You lost ALL credibility when you say this...

I won't even dignify this with an answer.

 

[JoogJoint]

unless, dean or the WWE reported an actual drug issue and it is a fact.
I really don't move off to many dirtsheet style situations or explanations/speculation.

regardless of the situation, the WWE fukked it up.


that is where the blame is placed.


Art Barr

Seth even said himself that dude was letting himself go for awhile (Seth threw out some hints about him staying out at all hours when they were suppose to be focus on their careers), he's an alcoholic and druggie, it's fact.

This is pro-wrestling though, wins and losses don't mean much. This isn't like boxing, ufc, football, baseball, etc. when wins or losses makes you lose your credibility and stock. Dean's in a much better position than a lot of the roster. I wouldn't call somebody falling by the wayside and out of Vince's favor when he does appear in the main event scene on RAW and PPV occasionally. That's not somebody that's getting "de-pushed." When he starts jobbing to Hornswoggly or The Bull, then we can say Dean failed. Roman wins alot, okay, but he has nothing to show for it. He has the worst promo material out of most of the roster. Seth clearly has the best booking out of all of them and rightfully so.

 

[JoogJoint]

Eh, I see where this thread is going...

Anytime you say something displeasing about somebody's favorite, then they call "ducktales" on you. Childish sh_t. smdh

 

[JoogJoint]

nikkas really think he's on drugs?

If you can't remember the star potential with Ambrose when he started the feud with Rollins, then the WWE is succeeding in brainwashing fans into believing their bullshyt.

It's an open secret about Dean. He started to get sloppy around his U.S. CHampionship run and it's been said Triple H. didn't like the way he was treating his U.S. Championship run.

...or just maybe there's people out there who find him overrated and just aren't into him like you guys...

 

[JoogJoint]

Before I leave this discussion, because I already know there's going to be personal insults and sh_t thrown around without any legit argument, you guys do know that majority of Dean's fans are crazy ass tumblr girls, right? If we are going to get on wrestler's case about how many female fans they have, you better throw Dean in there too because that's where his bread and butter is. The only difference between Dean and the other wrestlers is that he has more male fanbase, but don't think the male fanbase is what's keeping his "fame" afloat.

Just throwing that fact out there.

 

[thenatural]

It's an open secret about Dean. He started to get sloppy around his U.S. CHampionship run and it's been said Triple H. didn't like the way he was treating his U.S. Championship run.

...or just maybe there's people out there who find him overrated and just aren't into him like you guys...

Nah, I believe dude took drugs before he got to the WWE. Then he got clean. To attribute a failed title run to drugs is irresponsible, especially if you don't have a source. I'd rather you say you don't think he has it than saying he was going through a "coke phase".

 

[CJ]

Breh has really got to work on his punches though.

 

[jackswstd]

I skipped Raw but I heard about that skit with the psychiatrist :dumbass:

 

[Art Barr]

I skipped Raw but I heard about that skit with the psychiatrist :dumbass:

skit was greatness!!


Art Barr

 

[September]

I'll never understand the hype around Dean Ambrose. I don't hate him nor dislike him, he's just there for me. Seth is where it's at right now.

The comparisons to:
Mankind/Mick Foley
Roddy "Rowdy" Piper
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Stone Cold Steve Austin (some have suggested that he should take the stunner from SCSA)
Brian Pillman
Sting (Yes, somebody even said maybe Dean should take Sting's makeup ideas from him)

Gotta STOP.

Before anybody jumps down my throat or neg me, when The Shield got started he had his push over Roman and Seth (I don't see how anybody can deny this). When The Shield first came onto the scene, the only person people gave a damn about and the only person that was given the push first was DEAN, not Seth...not even Roman, but DEAN. All people ever talked about how he was going to be the "savior" of the WWE, Seth and Roman were just background props. That's how it was originally. Now that Seth has surpassed in every aspect, it's WWE's fault, with Roman it's different...even though Vince writes his corny ass material and booking himself, people still blame Roman for everything. Also I did check out Dean Ambrose's indie stuff and still wasn't impressed. No I'm not "hatin," but I just find that he's greatly overrated by the IWC and his potential. Even though I'm not a fan of his, they could do better with his booking as of lately, no I don't think Roman has it any better right now (come on now, he's saying corny sh_t and feuding with The Big Slow and you guys STILL think he's Vince's "golden boy"?!).

If you guys don't think Dean Ambrose got a fair deal before Seth and Roman started to surpass him, then maybe you need to go back and watch them in action when they first premiered. Like I said before, I was clowned because I liked Seth more than Dean and even Roman to a degre...now look at the kid. He's doing big things.

I agree that yes, Dean did have the singles push before the others (obviously holding the only singles title in the group) but his push was not treated with any semblance of respect. The Shield as a whole ALWAYS came first before Dean Ambrose as a singles competitor, which made sense. But I don't think they should be held as a slight against Dean. It legit wasn't his fault.

Ambrose, not Rollins or Reigns, was the most over out of that trio after the split.

Lies. Dean was over. There is no denying that. But he was not more over than Reigns immediately post Shield. That Roman/Rusev showdown was all Roman.

 

[Killer Instinct]

Lies. Dean was over. There is no denying that. But he was not more over than Reigns immediately post Shield. That Roman/Rusev showdown was all Roman.

False.
Ambrose was easily the most over and a single pop vs Rusev doesn't negate that two month stretch in which Dean was consistently getting louder pops and cheers than Reigns nightly.

 

[Da King]

All you dudes complaining




STOP WATCHING THEN

 

[September]

False.
Ambrose was easily the most over and a single pop vs Rusev doesn't negate that two month stretch in which Dean was consistently getting louder pops and cheers than Reigns nightly.

Then we're gonna have to agree to disagree because nearly every damn RAW thread (we'll leave out Smackdown since audience editing can be used as an arguable excuse) was people either downplaying or acting shocked at Roman's pop as if Roman wasn't over as fukk. You legit cannot deny that.

 

[September]

All you dudes complaining




STOP WATCHING THEN

Discussion in TSC is 95% of the fun

 

[Killer Instinct]

Then we're gonna have to agree to disagree because nearly every damn RAW thread (we'll leave out Smackdown since audience editing can be used as an arguable excuse) was people either downplaying or acting shocked at Roman's pop as if Roman wasn't over as fukk. You legit cannot deny that.

Reigns was nowhere near as over as you're alluding to and fans in the house shows alone were directing boring chants at he & Orton weeks into their program.
Ambrose consistently out popped him night in, and night out, particularly after MITB.
Agreeing to disagree is fine.