After watching Chapelle’s what’s in a name, is it time to flat top him?

[SunZoo]

I don’t think people remember how funny Kinison was man. Dude used to have me crying even as a little kid. I go back and watch his old specials and start crying laughing all over again lol! I wasn’t a big Carlin guy like that. He had his moments for me back then but I wasn’t checking for him like that

I remember Sam's time in the sun vividly, nobody was really thinking about Carlin at that time and HE knew it.



Without Kinison pushing him to 'raise his voice' we might not have gotten the legendary run that made him the legendy he is.

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

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Blame the phone. Not me.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

You know the definition of a neo liberal?

I think that's why TeaBagger misunderstood me.
It's my usage of the word neolib.
I agree I use it in a different manner than many as to what it means in my mind, ya that's true.
When I think of a neocon I think of super corrupt republicans that are the most hawkish, and want more and more power.
I just use the word Neolib as the Democratic party version of neocon.

Henry Giroux, social theorist and author of the new book, “America at War With Itself,” defines neoliberalism as an “economic and political policy” that empowers “elites … to consolidate political and economic power in their own interests.”

However Neolibs go one step further with that definition above, they are extremely PC and very pro-war.
The most that they ever offer is mere symbolism and tokenism. Giving a large visible amount of support to the LGBTQ community, saying you gotta say pronouns, being pro-woman, pro-abortion etc..
Being PC is all about offering tokenism and futile symbolism to spark the base and make new talking points and keep the momentum going while being able to complete avoid talking about corruption and endless wars.

I'm pro-abortion btw, I only mentioned abortion because there's not war money there, there's not billions of dollars there, if you follow the money it doesn't lead you to an abortion debate that's why I mentioned it.

If you look at the below do Democrat elites really not subscribe to this? They may not vocally say this, but their actions mean it.
By the definition below Democrat elites are neoliberal behind closed doors but social justice warriors in front of cameras. And they are always for more war and more power, that's how I use the word in my mind.

"It believes that the market is basically the answer to solving all problems, that profit-making is basically the essence of democracy, that the only obligation of citizenship is consumerism. It celebrates the values of privatization, deregulation and consumption. It suggests that businesses should regulate themselves. It argues that self-interest is the highest ideal with respect in some way to addressing the common good. It has a deep disdain for public goods, for the common good. It operates off the assumption that competition in a kind of shock-like mode of interaction is the only way to really survive in society. It embraces a kind of warlike assumption regarding social relations, meaning that the best way to get ahead is to pit oneself with each other."

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Pretty much, I mean look at who his boys are from way back when and look at where they're at now.

Rogan we all know and his boy that he stared in Half Baked with, that n-gga is on the conservative chitterling circuit

Now dude is still on point and the best out there, but like Carlin and I love both has turned into a "get off my lawn" type

Dave has more things in common with Wayne Brady than we care to admit (mainly catering to white crowds on their way to fame).

 

[CrimsonTider]

SMH @ y’all wanting Dave to be out there like Bruce Bruce in 2022

What does this mean?

 

[GPBear]

Threads like this you can tell people who don't read the replies lol. Also type of thread OP won't return too since his whole question is invalid due to him wrongfully claiming this was a special.

That doesn’t matter, OP’s basically talking about all Chappelle’s Netflix specials.

Yeah, this one isn’t funny because it’s a speech — so why are all the other ones not funny too?

 

[desjardins]

His whole Netflix run has been
People were pretending those first couple glorified TED talks were hilarious because Dave could connect a story 30 minutes apart
Ok, that's cool but the material just wasn't that funny to me. Now that he's doing the same thing on topics people don't agree with or it's getting redundant all the "brilliant philosopher" shyt done went out the window

 

[Robbie3000]

He doesn't and what made me stop fukking with him was him saying give Trump a chance and hanging out with racist ass Joe Rogan. No selfrespecting black man should be socializing with that right wing piece of shyt

I’m sure Dave is losing sleep that you don’t fukk with him.

 

[My Girl is Bow Legged]

I might have to make a thread about people talking about shyt they don't know.

Dave is 48...when Carlin was at the same stage in his career he was NOT the Carlin most people my age know and love. He was going through creative luls and getting shytted on in the press as other comics (like Sam Kennison) were on the come up. He was NOT dominating the genre and had not crossed over into to god tier "sancity of life" GC til his 60's.

Dave hasn't even had a chance to hit that stride yet.

don't know what this has to do with my post. someone compared chappelle's current run to late carlin and I disagreed. which you apparently did too but in a more pretentious way

 

[karim]

I’m sure Dave is losing sleep that you don’t fukk with him.

What a dumb ass comment

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

If you prefer Chappelle’s jokes about black babies on the corner selling crack instead of analyzing the world and racism, that’s your right

Yes I preferred his satire over his shallow, whiny, right wing adjacent social commentary about cancel culture, political correctness, liberal firing squads, and big bad threatening transgendered people. Sounding more and more like a bytchy white boy by the day. Rich as fukk and ain't got nothing to worry about but I'm suppose to laugh at this phony victimization over gay rights groups and pretend I'm witnessing social enlightenment and the second coming of Malcolm X himself. Oh please.

Not all of us are devoted bandwagon jumping stans. Some of us can change our minds and think for ourselves. Ten years ago I'd tell you Chapelle is one of the most brilliant satirists and comedians of our generation. When that first Netflix special dropped and I felt underwhelmed or like Im not even hearing the same person I heard on Killing em Softly, I still defended dude as one of our comedic geniuses. But like I said, after at least 5 years of this new tored routine Im realizing cat just had a nice Comedy Central show that was contributed by a bunch of great writers.

His new persona is just trash, man. Yes bring me nack the Chapelle who satires the black community. At least that was creative and funny. This new routine of grumpy old rich guy punching down on anyone trying to "cancel" him is not as enlightening or intellectual as yall convince yourself.

Consider this my friend: the new Dave Chapelle--mr anti-PC, anti-cancel culture warrior--is celebrated on Fox and Friends in the morning and Gutfeld! by night every time hes in the headlines. The old Comedy Central Dave Chapelle was feared and lambasted as a vulgar, anti-white, race baiting degenerate on Fox. You would have never caught racist right wing commentators praising Chappelle Show or Killing em Softly. Sit on that and ask yourself which was truly a more powerful voice against white supremacy. The one that got these conservative whites feeling very comfortable and happy or the one that had them shook and upset?

 

[B86]

I just scrolled past it last night because the description said it was a “speech”…not comedy, necessarily

 

[Edub]

Damn is it that bad

 

[SunZoo]

don't know what this has to do with my post. someone compared chappelle's current run to late carlin and I disagreed. which you apparently did too but in a more pretentious way

No, I'm saying if we are comparing them, Dave (who I rank below Carlin) is in a much better space commercially and artistically than GC was at his age. Before he hit that philosphical stride people were saying he was washed and had nothing of substance to say, that comedy was moving on without him. He caught a lot of backlash and lost a lot of fans with his new material, fans who were replaced by people who understood where he was headed.

Dave is going through THAT process, as seen by the dumb nikkas who yearn for the days when the majority of Dave's jokes and commentary was centered on black stereotypes, even as early as 8:46.

 

[get my pool]

It wasn’t even stand-up. He was just telling stories about the school. Even the funny moments seemed more like inside jokes amongst the alumni. It was decent to me though