Agents of top draft picks are keeping players from working out with the Celtics and Kings

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whats the point of drafting any pg if u have IT:what:

Fultz can be the primary ball handler and allow IT to play the 2 on offense, which he is more suited for.

Or IT can run the point with Fultz on the floor because he is exceptional off ball as well. He gives you the same type of flexibility with the other guards on their roster too which is something they need that no other prospect in this draft can provide.

Think of him like Harden and how can he play point or the 2. Except Fultz allows IT play both positions too which is even deadlier.
 
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I don't care if they "don't have the leeway", it's not good for the player or the team to hoard draft picks and waste them by drafting too many young players, effectively stunting the development of the majority of said picks.

they're not getting major PT on a team with vets on the bench either
 

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dont worry, danny ainge making them moves

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Even top draft picks need to develop to completely be ready for the NBA game, let alone late first round and second round guys.

In order to develop you need playing time. If you land in Boston you are not going to get the playing time to develop that you would in essentially every other situation.

This is because they are coming in before they are ready. Elite players have been immediate contributors throughout league history. It's only in the last 20 years that people accept this idea that guys need time. These agents are basically admitting that these dudes that they are selling as game changers that are ready to go, aren't that.

Avoid a possible championship team because you aren't ready to beat out Kelly Olynik as top pick brehs :scust:
 
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Fultz can be the primary ball handler and allow IT to play the 2 on offense, which he is more suited for.

Or IT can run the point with Fultz on the floor because he is exceptional off ball as well. He gives you the same type of flexibility with the other guards on their roster too which is something they need that no other prospect in this draft can provide.

Think of him like Harden and how can he play point or the 2. Except Fultz allows IT play both positions too which is even deadlier.
You sure? Do you have footage or highlights?IDK it kinda wouldn't make any sense. When Isaiah works off ball he isn't playing the two he's still a pg just like steph is on gsw. He's a high usage player and just had an all time season for a guard period so he should ALWAYS get shots over Fultz realistically and you would get more out of having more offensive options so Fultz and Isaiah switching out would be less efficient then having another ball handler and BOTH of them playing off ball ala bradley and isaiah, steph and klay. Worse I have seen one game from Fultz and he hasn't shown to be anything like the off ball ability that Isaiah has because isaiah and steph are really the only guards who navigate through screens like that it seems unlikely that he would. Harden can catch and drive or spot up but he's always been more ball dominant and Isaiah/Steph also carry more "gravity" becaise they are a threat to move,catch, and shoot and I'll admit I haven't seen a fultz game but all of his highlights show him iso/pulling up not a lot of moving and shooting but it could just be I was watching the wrong stuff :yeshrug:
 
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This is because they are coming in before they are ready. Elite players have been immediate contributors throughout league history. It's only in the last 20 years that people accept this idea that guys need time. These agents are basically admitting that these dudes that they are selling as game changers that are ready to go, aren't that.

Avoid a possible championship team because you aren't ready to beat out Kelly Olynik as top pick brehs :scust:

No, 20 years ago it wasn't some magical time where the need for player development was completely absent.

The real problem (and what your issue seems to stem from) is not allowing players to go directly from high school to the NBA. Instead you force elite talent to go to college for one year, which causes colleges to not focus on player development since they will be leaving for the NBA at the end of the year anyways.

So then the players that actually do need development don't get it either and NBA teams are forced to do all of it themselves.

People need to quit blaming players for the stupid decisions that GMs make, if they continue to reward players for leaving early it won't stop anytime soon.

Hence the backlog of players in Boston that need development and can't get it because they are getting their opportunities taken by new players that need even more work every year.
 

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No, 20 years ago it wasn't some magical time where the need for player development was completely absent.

The real problem (and what your issue seems to stem from) is not allowing players to go directly from high school to the NBA. Instead you force elite talent to go to college for one year, which causes colleges to not focus on player development since they will be leaving for the NBA at the end of the year anyways.

So then the players that actually do need development don't get it either and NBA teams are forced to do all of it themselves.

People need to quit blaming players for the stupid decisions that GMs make, if they continue to reward players for leaving early it won't stop anytime soon.

Hence the backlog of players in Boston that need development and can't get it because they are getting their opportunities taken by new players that need even more work every year.

No one said it was completely absent or magical. Just that top players weren't shook by the likes Marcus Smart or Kelly Olynik. I could see if we were talking about the Warriors and even then a true competitor is gonna come in and try to prove themselves and earn a spot. I agree that it's not all the players fault that they are accepted as raw projects. It is the players fault if they aren't up to competing and delivering on a squad that will demand that of them. nikkas would rather put up stats while copping Ls or sit on the bench with even less opportunity to develop on a shytty squad than work and compete on a possible contender. That is a sad mentality, especially for supposed franchise players.
 
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