Ain’t none of Kanye’s sons surpassed him
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Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
It doesn’t matter
Them having more music that has more content that will stand the test of time is not a debate
The same way Drake having more pop hits isn’t a debate either
Travis Scott is the only name in the OP that fits the description of 'Kanye's Son'
whats J Cole stadium anthem , sh*t whats J Cole's hood anthem?
Kanye has dropped 1 (one) good album since his mom died- and it wasn't a rap album. That shyt to him was like Ether to Jay. So if any of his sons have dropped anything worth talking about since November 2008 they have surpassed him creatively.
XannyWarbucks
Superstar
"Know Yourself" is the typical shallow Drake introspection. shyt is basically another Started from the Bottom, but not as good. Just because you like yelling "RUNNING THROUGH THE SIX WITH MY WOES" to the mirror, doesn't make it a classic. And yes, if you're going to bring up how Family Business and Real Friends are sequels, we're bringing in Drake's narratives.
shyt is the typical cop-out answer. In regards to what, exactly? I don't read Rolling Stone and haven't followed rap blogs in years, yet you calling Know Yourself better than any of Kanye's music is some 2009- blog hot-take. Especially with the "oh, I don't care about media hype or narrative." Like Drake doesn't have clout.
Cause out of every song it was the only one you named. "Never Let Me Down", "Jesus Walks", "Slow Jamz," "Two Words" and "Through the Wire" bang just as well. And if anything, you saying that Real Friends is a sequel or successor, compliments Kanye's discography, because you're saying his discography is so deep that he could respond to a song he made 12 years before.
I like Drake, but he's not near Kanye at all.
Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
Yeah I wasn’t even going to answer thatYall nikkas make up the metrics as you go
"How many tracks did Travis Scott produce for Blueprint 1"
Breh, this convo's not gonna work if you make shyt up as you go along. Let's have an actual hip hop convo here.
Know Yourself is a superior beat to damn near any beat in Kanye's solo discog. From the drums (which Kanye typically has terrible drums) to whatever Boi-1da sampled for the melody on top. Vocally, Drake is superior to Kanye from voice to riding the beat. So you can understand where I'm going with this. It's a better song. Melodically, it's more pleasing to my ears than most of Ye's solo work. The first half of Know Yourself demolishes just about anything I've ever heard from Ye.
Kanye the solo artist doesn't make hard hip hop. He never has. Drake makes harder hip hop than Ye.
Yall nikkas make up the metrics as you go
"How many tracks did Travis Scott produce for Blueprint 1"
that answered my question.
OfTheCross
Veteran
huh? say that again
Grano-Grano
The Bando
Yeezy don't need to rap. He fathered a whole generation. He is also single handly changing the fashion game.
He's a trifecta. All hail Yeezus
He's a trifecta. All hail Yeezus
XannyWarbucks
Superstar
Kanye admittedly has said that his drums are his achilles heel, so I'll give you that. But, it's not like Kanye hasn't had other producers work on drums for him. As for voice, Drake sounding hard (pause) always sound odd, even though I think IYRTITL and NWTS were both his best work, like that was around the time he was trying real hard to be a one-man Migos and try to take Meek's screeching. The melodically pleasing part, I don't know if Drake could do something like Two Words, Drive Slow and some of Kanye's flow stunt tracks. shyt I think Ye's verses in Gorgeous body anything Drake has ever made.
Breh, this convo's not gonna work if you make shyt up as you go along. Let's have an actual hip hop convo here.
Know Yourself is a superior beat to damn near any beat in Kanye's solo discog. From the drums (which Kanye typically has terrible drums) to whatever Boi-1da sampled for the melody on top. Vocally, Drake is superior to Kanye from voice to riding the beat. So you can understand where I'm going with this. It's a better song. Melodically, it's more pleasing to my ears than most of Ye's solo work. The first half of Know Yourself demolishes just about anything I've ever heard from Ye.
Kanye the solo artist doesn't make hard hip hop. He never has. Drake makes harder hip hop than Ye.
As for the last point, I could see how you got to that point. I disagree, but it's understandable that around MBDTF (a classic) he did change his sound to something more poppish. But, on the other note Drake hasn't made hip-hop since IFRTITL, and pretty much hasn't had a hip-hop hit since he dropped Miller. Kanye was still spitting.
At the end of the day, we gonna disagree with each other. But, I understand your points, even if I don't agree.