Alchemist and 9th Wonder have messages for Nas...

Yayo Toure

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Damn I was hoping no one would post this. Yeah, that's not the jam right there. It makes it worse by their overreactions.
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If 9th even had Nas rhyme on the Rhythm Roulette beats he did it would be dope.


Anything at all you fukk with from 9th in the past few years at all?

That joint with phonte and elzhi, a couple joints off his Jamla compilations.

I listened to his tape with kweli and it was a lot of :flabbynsick: all around.

I'm gonna listen to his tape with Murs tho.


Fact is no matter how bad 9th fell off, I'm gonna listen to his shyt off the strength of his run from the early 2000s. Back then when you saw a CD that said x and 9th wonder you were guaranteed to hear some dope beats and a random Phonte feature. I really can't tell the last 9th project I liked all the way through(granted I haven't listened to rhapsodys stuff because I can't get down with her style, I have a hunch he's saved his best beats for her), probably Jean Grae jeanius is the last one I liked.
 

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That joint with phonte and elzhi, a couple joints off his Jamla compilations.

I listened to his tape with kweli and it was a lot of :flabbynsick: all around.

I'm gonna listen to his tape with Murs tho.


Fact is no matter how bad 9th fell off, I'm gonna listen to his shyt off the strength of his run from the early 2000s. Back then when you saw a CD that said x and 9th wonder you were guaranteed to hear some dope beats and a random Phonte feature. I really can't tell the last 9th project I liked all the way through(granted I haven't listened to rhapsodys stuff because I can't get down with her style, I have a hunch he's saved his best beats for her), probably Jean Grae jeanius is the last one I liked.

The Murs tape is better than the last one they did IMO. You can tell 9th got new hardware for this project with Murs IMO.

I also think he uses his best beats on Rapsody. Jamla projects got released left and right (every month) for free from 2010-2012, and then all the artists basically had releases you had to pay for in 2012. After that, a few have dropped more releases and others haven't.

If others had popped off as much as Rapsody IMO they'd still get lots of heaters. Like, Big Remo IMO has gotten the best 9th beats in history overall, but I guess Sleepwalkers (2012) didn't do much, because he hasn't released anything since then. He left the Jamla in late 2015 (not sure why). Skyzoo and Thee Tom Hardy also left Jamla a few years ago, but I don't know why. Enigma and Sundown must be in different places in life/music, because they (Actual Proof) haven't dropped a project since 2012 and only ad one (older) song on that Jamla is the Squad tape. TP only did one tape in 2011 and nothing since, but he's still on the website and was on the compilation too. Sean Boog retired from music to run the label.

Rapsody is definitely THE artist over there right now, followed by Add-2 from Chicago who got added in late '13. From the original crew it seems like HaLo, and GQ are the main ones besides Rapsody. I guess Heather Victoria also.

elaborate:comeon: I didn't know producers had a "Prime"

I know you weren't asking me, and I used to never think about it, but actually I sort of wonder with any artist if there isn't a "prime" period. I think with music making people can always grow and find new sounds and revisit styles and have various hot streaks. But if someone thought that producers had a "prime" I don't know if I'd disagree.

I started thinking about it when Quentin Tarantino said he'd like to do 2 more movies and call it a wrap, since he doesn't want to overstay his welcome and he thinks that everyone has their time and their run of good ideas and then the well runs dry.

But music is infinite so it may not apply. Alchemist is my personal favorite producer and he was getting a little stale around the ate 00's and switched his style up and started improving IMO, so who knows.
 

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Producers fall off when their signature style gets stale and they can't switch up. It has happened to every producer who has made more than five songs that are deemed classic.

Which is why you have to give props to guys like Pharrell who have stayed relevant over multiple decades.
 

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nah thelonious doesn't know how to make a fukking kick drum sit in the mix without overpowering and killing every single frequency above it.

fair enough. I can't even say I'm a big fan of dude. I've only heard one great beat of his that I can recall: "Burgundy Windbreaker"

elaborate:comeon: I didn't know producers had a "Prime"

all producers have a prime :what: In fact, all artists have a prime when they release their defining work and then fall off to varying degrees due to the well running dry/not being able to re-wow the audience, etc. :comeon:

You really think Timbaland, Premo and RZA didn't have primes?
 
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fair enough. I can't even say I'm a big fan of dude. I've only heard one great beat of his that I can recall: "Burgundy Windbreaker"



all producers have a prime :what: In fact, all artists have a prime when they release their defining work and then fall off to varying degrees due to the well running dry/not being able to re-wow the audience, etc. :comeon:

You really think Timbaland, Premo and RZA didn't have primes?
That's an external factor, they haven't actually lost their ability the audience has just gotten more fickle and can't enjoy the same great music(If it ain't broke don't fix it not everything needs an evolution). This isn't sports yeah I agree after a certain age rappers won't have as much energy or the breath control but a producer is behind the scenes in a studio unless they lose the loss of their arms or have progressive hearing loss I can't see them losing their prime unless you're talking about DJing.
 
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